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Divine Inspiration
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RE: Divine Inspiration
(October 7, 2012 at 12:36 pm)Drich Wrote:
(October 7, 2012 at 12:04 pm)Darkstar Wrote: I don't have time to respond to the rest, but I keep saying that god would know if we did it for self-preservation and we would be foolish to think otherwise.

Holy Smokes! And I will keep saying it's not for God that we are here. God could have created us and imediatly sent those who would deny Him straight to hell. Our time here is for us. so we know that God's judgement is just. When you live your life apart from the imediate knoweledge of God you do what you want. If you want God you will find him and if you want to live for self you will!

...I see. Most of what you just said actually sounded pretty noble until you said "If you want god you will find him". The thing is, that satatement is very true, but not representative of morality. Those who want to see god will interpret coincidence as proof of his existence. Those who do not, or are neutral, tend to conclude from the big picture that a single anecdote cannot oppose complete lack of evidence in all other fields. (By the way, if you value anecdotal evidence, then please try to justify this. And please don't say "well she's with god now, because he 'saved' plenty of other people throughout history who didn't even ask.) If god were hiding his existence to see who would do good, then that is good. If he is hiding his existence to see who will follow without evidence, then we have a problem. In this case, he would value credulity over morality. However, as you are clearly convinced that morality is 'a crap standard' because god's morality is isn't unchanging, then there is no point in pressing that issue with you. The theory that Hitler really was doing god's work, although unnerving, is actually kind of interesting as I had never expected to hear anything like it.

You may think that I am deliberately sidestepping the story of how you started your business because I am 'desperate'. I am not. Please see the bottom of this post for an understanding of how someone can claim god told them to do something when...he clearly wasn't needed. I assumed that he was religious because you claimed he said he was giving you the money to do 'waht god wanted you to do'. You have already admitted that anecdotal evidence without hard evidence can only possibly be of use the the person who experienced it, so I think it would be better to just leave it alone.


To get back on topic; this thread was for whether the bible was divinely inspired. If you are utterly convinced that killing people who pick up sticks on a Sunday is okay because god says so, then we have reached a dead end in debate over his morality.

Instead, I will return to the original topic. First, I have a contradiction you may look into if you like: Matthew 1:16


Luke 3:23


See bolded.

Also, I would like to remind you of the scientific errors.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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Messages In This Thread
Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 28, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 28, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 28, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Cato - September 28, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 28, 2012 at 9:59 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Minimalist - September 28, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Kayenneh - September 28, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by MysticKnight - September 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Waratah - September 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 1:05 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 6, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by genkaus - October 8, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Creed of Heresy - September 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 30, 2012 at 4:48 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Whateverist - October 1, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:03 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:22 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Polaris - October 2, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Minimalist - October 2, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 1:24 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by KichigaiNeko - October 8, 2012 at 7:04 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Something completely different - October 8, 2012 at 9:13 am

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