RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 19, 2012 at 11:37 am
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2012 at 12:00 pm by Darkstar.)
(October 19, 2012 at 3:24 am)Drich Wrote:(October 19, 2012 at 12:11 am)Darkstar Wrote: If that is true, then why didn't it use any of those words?Holy Crap! IT DID!!! In the HEBREW! Word for freaking word! The bible was not written in the English! You are reading a literal translation. Not a commentary. If you want more meaning then you will either use a commentary bible that explains stuff like this or you will have to learn to translate this stuff for yourself by properly using the correct reference material. That is why only an idiot would take a translation of another culture in another language, and look for inconsistencies. This is impossiable to do from modern Japanese to Modern English. So why would any educated person look to do this from Modern/western english soceity to ancient Hebrew?
Quote:Still says 'drive out' in both cases. Literal translation in the second link says 'evict'. Please make your rebuttal more than an assertion next time.The 'assertion' was backed by actual reference material, and not a commentary.
What 'reference material'? I provided two links of translations from Hebrew straight to English that do not say 'dispossesed' and you provided no links. Here's something:http://biblelexicon.org/judges/1-19.htm
Quote:but could notThis says that they couldn't drive them out has the same meaning as the driving out you spoke of before, as in they could not seize, rob or inherit. Note, this is the commentary you asked for, in leiu of a literal translation.
lo' (lo)
not (the simple or abs. negation); by implication, no; often used with other particles (as follows)
drive out
yarash (yaw-rash')
to occupy (by driving out previous tenants, and possessing in their place); by implication, to seize, to rob, to inherit; also to expel, to impoverish, to ruin
Drich Wrote:Just like we might see the rapture too, even though it is arguably uncanonical... And again, should I take your word for it, or will you show me the evidence, as I have done with the lexicon commentary page I gave above?Darkstar Wrote:Yet, somehow, none of this happened, and since he said against you and he was talking to the pharaoh (and the rest of Egypt) we can believe this to be time specific. Yet, there are no longer pharaohs and this has not come to pass.So what would the Jewish word for president be? Oh, that's right it would literally be "par-oh" Meaning simply "Great house." Or LEADER So as We live in a time after Neb's fortold victory, and in a time of "Par-oh's" then I'd say we are still in line to possiably see this one through.
Zechariah 14: 10-11 10 The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up high from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses, and will remain in its place. 11 It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
Jerusalem was not secure; it was not to be never again destroyed.
Siege of Jerusalem (70)
wikipedia Wrote:The siege ended with the sacking of the city and the destruction of its famous Second Temple. The destruction of both the first and second temples is still mourned annually as the Jewish fast Tisha B'Av. The Arch of Titus, celebrating the Roman sack of Jerusalem and the Temple, still stands in Rome....Josephus claims that 1,100,000 people were killed during the siege, of which a majority were Jewish, and that 97,000 were captured and enslaved, including Simon bar Giora and John of Giscala.Not very secure, is it? "But you're taking it out of context!"
Book of Zechariah
wikipedia Wrote:Some scholars accept the book as the writings of one individual. For example, George Livingstone Robinson's dissertation on chapters 9-14[4] concluded that those chapters had their origin in the period between 518 and 516 BCE and stand in close relation to chapters 1-8, having most probably been composed by Zechariah himself. However, most modern scholars believe the book of Zechariah was written by at least two different people.[5]Look at the dates. The passage was written well before Jerusalem was destroyed.
Zechariah 1-8, sometimes referred to as First Zechariah, was written in the 6th century BCE.[6] Zechariah 9-14, often called Second Zechariah, contains within the text no datable references to specific events or individuals but most scholars give the text a date in the fifth century BCE.[7] Second Zechariah, in the opinion of some scholars, appears to make use of the books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, the Deuteronomistic History, and the themes from First Zechariah. This has led some to believe that the writer(s) or editor(s) of Second Zechariah may have been a disciple of the prophet Zechariah.[8] There are some scholars who go even further and divide Second Zechariah into Second Zechariah (9-11) and Third Zechariah (12-14) since each begins with a heading oracle.[9]
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