(October 19, 2012 at 4:18 pm)Darkstar Wrote:(October 19, 2012 at 12:56 am)Godschild Wrote:
Why do you keep accusing me of being dishonset when it was a simple mistake. I needed to include this:
Joshua 1:1-6 After the death of Moses the servant of the Lord, the Lord said to Joshua son of Nun, Moses’ aide: 2 “Moses my servant is dead. Now then, you and all these people, get ready to cross the Jordan River into the land I am about to give to them—to the Israelites. 3 I will give you every place where you set your foot, as I promised Moses. 4 Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates—all the Hittite country—to the Mediterranean Sea in the west. 5 No one will be able to stand against you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will never leave you nor forsake you. 6 Be strong and courageous, because you will lead these people to inherit the land I swore to their ancestors to give them.
Here, god promises that the isrealites will conquer everwhere they set foot. This is the origin of Joshua's quote, in which he says:
“Come here and listen to the words of the Lord your God. 10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites."
Here he is relaying what god told him in the earlier passage. It may have caused some confusion as to the origin of his quote when the previous verse was talking about a river. I am not talking about the river.
The whole thing is about the river, not the conquering of the land, God did not tell Joshua of the peoples that would be dispossessed, do you see those names in the verses you gave, no, so why are you using it, those verses are repeating what Joshua already knew. God proved to the people He was with Joshua and the people by stopping the flow of the river, a much greater feat. Joshua got the info about the people to be dispossessed from Moses. The verses in the OP have nothing to do with dispossessing these people, why is it so hard for you to see. Joshua was the one who made the statement about dispossessing these people, He was embellishing what God actually said.
Drich was correct in saying that the people did not take all God was giving them. They started off all wrong, they did not take all the lands God was going to give them, they stopped and settled down in the lands west of the Jordan except for a couple of small areas. If they had accepted what God was going to give them they would have conquered all the lands to the Euphrates, virtually eliminating all there enemies to this day. They payed a big price for not doing what God had planned for them.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.