Failed Biblical Prophecies

[Drich]

[1.At least part of the city is underwater. Is that a pit?

The Pit is bowr in the orginal Hebrew it means a cistern, Well, (Hole with water at the bottom)

2.That part of the city is not inhabited.

No part of the old city is inhabited. The northern part of the sea port is where the new city sits.

There are still two major problems with the prophecy.
First: Ezekeil 26:7-18

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For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar[b] king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army. 8 He will ravage your settlements on the mainland with the sword; he will set up siege works against you, build a ramp up to your walls and raise his shields against you. 9 He will direct the blows of his battering rams against your walls and demolish your towers with his weapons. 10 His horses will be so many that they will cover you with dust. Your walls will tremble at the noise of the warhorses, wagons and chariots when he enters your gates as men enter a city whose walls have been broken through. 11 The hooves of his horses will trample all your streets; he will kill your people with the sword, and your strong pillars will fall to the ground. 12 They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea. 13 I will put an end to your noisy songs, and the music of your harps will be heard no more. 14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.

15 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says to Tyre: Will not the coastlands tremble at the sound of your fall, when the wounded groan and the slaughter takes place in you? 16 Then all the princes of the coast will step down from their thrones and lay aside their robes and take off their embroidered garments. Clothed with terror, they will sit on the ground, trembling every moment, appalled at you. 17 Then they will take up a lament concerning you and say to you:


“‘How you are destroyed, city of renown,
peopled by men of the sea!
You were a power on the seas,
you and your citizens;
you put your terror
on all who lived there.
18 Now the coastlands tremble
on the day of your fall;
the islands in the sea
are terrified at your collapse.’

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This did not happen. The consumtion by waves was to occur after the city was ruined by Nebuchadnezzer, which never happened.

alexander the Great came after Nebuchadnezzer, so the consumption of tyre did indeed come after "Neb" destroyed the city the first time.

The second problem is that the prophecy says Tyre will never be found: Ezekiel 26:19-21

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19 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I make you a desolate city, like cities no longer inhabited, and when I bring the ocean depths over you and its vast waters cover you, 20 then I will bring you down with those who go down to the pit, to the people of long ago. I will make you dwell in the earth below, as in ancient ruins, with those who go down to the pit, and you will not return or take your place[c] in the land of the living. 21 I will bring you to a horrible end and you will be no more. You will be sought, but you will never again be found, declares the Sovereign Lord.”

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It has been found, so this part is also untrue.
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This part of the Prophecy is describing a very specificly describing Old tyre. All of it is at the bottom of the sea.

Understand we are talking about 3 cities. Old tyre that Ezk condemned, Tyre that existed at the time of Christ or the Roman ruled/built (which the ruins can still be found) and New Tyre the modern city that was built on the causeway created by the sea currents depositing sand on the ruins of Old tyre that Alexander the great cast into the sea trying to reach the Old sea port of tyre. New development can also be found on northern most part of the pensula.

Old Tyre was completely taken down brick by brick as the Prophecy descibes and thrown into the sea by alexander the great. They made a causeway from the stones that were once made up the old city of tyre. They did this so they could march out and attack the sea port. The thing is they did not have enough material to reach the seaport of tyre Even after they took every stone that was old tyre and cast it into the sea. (which contained the majority of the well to do residents of Old Tyre and was where they stored all their valuables while under the threat of attack) So it was a vauable target. That is why one of Alexander the Great's generals reattacked the seaport after he died. The reason Old tyre was never rebuilt on it's orginal foundations was because better ground (harder to attack was located just north of the old cities location on the main land.) This was used by the Romans to build the existing ruins. In more modern times the Cause way was used to build what is considered Tyre now.

That said, you need to admit that OLD Tyre Ezk's Tyre is completely gone cast into the sea and has never been found. Just as the Prophecy said it was.

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No it is not.

The city Ezk cursed is gone. Does you faith blind you to that point? or do you just need to have the last word, and that is why you keep repeating a failed arguement?

Yes it is, shithead.

Remember...you supplied a photo of it yourself.

Really. How fucking stupid are you? Why does your god need you to explain his fuck-ups. Tyre exists. It has never not existed since it was first built. Like Damascus.... another yahweh fuck-up...it has been conquered but never destroyed. Both sites are simply far too valuable pieces of real estate for any conqueror to destroy.

Give it up already. You are making yourself look like a bigger asshole every time you open your mouth.

A large sign which marks the ancient city of Tyre as protected cultural property according to the 1954 Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict

Holy crap do you not understand that the ruins are not Ezk's tyre? Are you being obstinate or did you not even read any of the links I have provided describing the different encarnation of this city?

Your own wiki artical describes the complete destruction of Ezk's tyre by alexander the great.
This is a link to national geographic's website Identifying the roman incarnation of tyre:
http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/tra...on-photos/
This shows "New tyre" built on the causeway created by the destruction of Old Tyre.
http://www.lgic.org/en/photos3_tyre.php

Look at the photo of the causeway to the right is where Ezk's tyre existed to the left is where Rome built it's incarnation of the city and the new city is obviously in the middle.

If I were like you this is where I would be calling you names. Maybe in the future we can have a discussion without the name calling. I believe you to be at least 10 to 20 years my senior. If I can refrain from belittling you when I have the chance, I am sure it is well with in your ablity to do the same for me. Or if you perfer I can rebuke a older man harshly every time the oppertunity presents itself.