Human Value Nonexistent?

[The Grand Nudger]

No, but it works. It makes you feel justified in your perception of value of yourself, of others, of praise, of morals, etc...

Until it doesn't "work" at all.....right, like the very moment someone asks you to demonstrate the veracity of the claim.

Animals value each other. But they don't ponder "why"? Animals don't insult one another, and praise one another constantly, to require a need to believe in a objective value to themselves.

Thank you for your expert observations Dr. Dolittle.......

Yes we valued each other as primates, but without the sophisticated perception of value we have now.

A perception of value by reference to ghosts doesn't sound very sophisticated to me Mystic.....

Myths was favored by evolution. It doesn't mean they are correct, but it's the human condition to believe in myths.

Correction, our evolution seems to have prepared the ground for magical thinking (but why you would think this was the case when you doubt that very notion is beyond me). Our evolutionary pathways and quirks are unqualified to comment upon what evolution favors et all. Similarly, by this same token one could claim that same apparatus that gave us myth-making also gives us skepticism, because here I am, evolution favors me. The more accurate way to express this sentiment would be that human evolution appears to have favored the ability to create myth. It's the ability, not the myth that evolution could operate on...just how would evolution favor a myth btw? I wasn't aware that myths were biological.

Heh, well try to understand. It wasn't always required.

It still isn't.

A monkey can value itself by pure instinct. But where intelligence (logic) and instinct is developing, there needed to be myth at one point.

Why?

Again, naturalism perspective doesn't justify us killing animals. Myth did.

No, it doesn't (and didn't). In the same way that my comment "waffles" doesn't explain consciousness myth does not provide justification. I think what you're referring to here might be better labeled pretense, rationalization, excuse, or bare assertion.

Yes, we needed "gods" and "god" to feel special.

I don't, and I'm carrying the same gear that people carried both before and during this whole god business...and throughout the entirety of this god business there were those who did not feel this need any more than I do now.