RE: God's sacrifice
September 28, 2009 at 5:21 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2009 at 5:23 pm by Ace Otana.)
(September 28, 2009 at 5:11 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: If he knows everything, indeed he knows what pain is like. But since he is 100% perfect he doesn't need anything, so he doesn't need to care that it hurts, and since he is omnipotent it cannot hurt him either. So despite his knowledge and the fact he knows how much horror is in the world, why would he care? He could intellectually know how bad the pain is, without actually giving a shit because he's perfect, and he therefore doesn't need to. He doesn't need to care about anything, he's, apparently, perfect. Emotion is petty to him, everything is. In fact, he doesn't need to do anything if he's perfect. So 1. Why would he need to create the universe in the first place if he was perfect already and didn't need to, and 2. If creating the universe is what fulfilled him, and made him perfect, then from then on, being perfect, he wouldn't need to actually do anything further, so no wonder he doesn't bother to do anything. He's done his job and he's apparently perfect and 100% fulfilled now
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That then leads to the question of what is the purpose of god? What is his purpose in anything or is he devoid of purpose? What purpose is there for him to create something or anything for that matter? How does anything help him? Being perfect and being anything and everything would mean there is nothing for him to work on to be more than what he is. No limit, no desire, no path to walk on no higher ground and no future. Just is and shall ever be and nothing more. So with that, would gods existence be nothing but a purposeless existence that is completely devoid of meaning and future. A boring plane and so creates the universe and just watches it grow and us grow dumber. But being all knowing would mean he knew he was going to create the universe and so is pointless in watching anything happen as he already knows it's going to happen. So then whats the point in creating a universe? If he already knew he was going to create the universe then why would he need to work on designing it if he already knows how to before even thinking of it?
We could go through all this or we could let go of religion and live out lives through science and reason where for us, there is no limit since we'd never make it that far. Nothing but future and knowledge for us that gives us that purpose of development for the future.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
