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God's sacrifice
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RE: God's sacrifice
@ Ace

I'd say that, indeed, he is completely devoid of purpose. He doesn't need a purpose. He doesn't need to do anything. He doesn't need anything. There was therefore no point to creating the universe, he just mechanically creating it, whilst he was filling himself up to perfection I guess, in which case now he no longer needs anything (since he's perfect apparently) so the remaining stuff is just like clockwork. And he never needs to intervene, because, to repeat again: He doesn't need anything. So I guess he must be a deistic God then? Because he doesn't need to intervene?

He's an apathetic God, but not in an emotional sense. He doesn't need emotions lol. He literally needs and requires fuck-all basically lol.

He sits back and doesn't need to even watch the clockwork as the clock ticks and time goes by. Actually he doesn't need to sit back. He doesn't even need to move. He's static, he does fuck-all. All action must have been used to reach a level of absolute perfection, and I assume creating the universe must have been part of this single task, before he was perfect, so when he actually had a purpose. Then the rest is clockwork.

And if this isn't the case, if he never even had a purpose in the beginning because he was perfect all along, then the whole concept of his perfection breaks down because there would have been no need to create anything in the first place if he was perfect already. So I reckon, he must have been less than perfect, and for some reason unknown to us mere morals, creating the universe helped him reach 100% perfection and from then on...the rest is clockwork and he does fuck-all now lol.

@Saerules, from out 'mere mortal' human perspective of omni-benevolence, God is indeed not all loving. And if it means anything different to him, then that's not what we would define as all-loving anyway, that would be something else (like from our perspective, either complete callousness or evil). So by our definition he is indeed not all-loving.

However, on your point of omnipotence. If he can't be hurt then that's due to his omnipotence, not the other way around. He's invincible so he can't be hurt. Failing to be hurt is not something he can't do, it is something that can't be done to him, due to the fact he's invincible because he's omnipotent.

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God's sacrifice - by Craveman - September 28, 2009 at 4:03 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Violet - September 28, 2009 at 4:21 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 4:43 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Minimalist - September 28, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 4:53 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 5:02 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Violet - September 28, 2009 at 4:57 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 5:00 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 5:11 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Craveman - September 28, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Violet - September 28, 2009 at 5:15 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Violet - September 28, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 5:51 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 5:59 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - September 28, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 6:16 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 6:23 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - September 28, 2009 at 6:28 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 6:36 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - September 28, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 7:10 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - September 28, 2009 at 7:22 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 7:28 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - September 28, 2009 at 7:40 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 28, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 7:51 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 7:22 am
RE: God's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - September 29, 2009 at 9:10 am
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 7:33 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 7:41 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Violet - September 28, 2009 at 8:32 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Violet - September 28, 2009 at 8:35 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 8:49 pm
RE: God's sacrifice - by theblindferrengi - September 28, 2009 at 8:42 pm

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