(November 5, 2012 at 7:09 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(November 5, 2012 at 6:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You fell for the bait. Legal and moral are TWO different things.You are correct, yet who are you to say Romney is less moral than Obama? Obama has had American citizens assassinated without trial, launched drones to spy on American citizens, and continued the warrant-less wiretapping of countless numbers of people.
Don't pretend Obama is somehow moral and Romney is not.
Tiberious, exactly how would this be any different than a soilder in WW2 killing a Nazi colaborator?
This cannot be handled like a SWAT team trying to prevent a hostage taker from killing hostages. Sometimes we can and do catch them without killing them. And we certainly do that here when they are on our soil where law inforcement has much more control. We cannot control their movements overseas or surround them like a SWAT TEAM.
If you have a better suggestion I'm all ears. But to suggest that every situation can or should be treated the same is absurd. ESPECALLY when dealing with people in countries we have no control over who want to kill us in the west.
I look at it as the risk you take when you collaborate with the enemy. On our soil we have much more control in catching them. In the west we work together in sting opporations so it doesn't get to that point. But if they are in the enemies country the only things we can rely on are intel and sometimes that intell does not allow for a clean capture.
In a pefect world you'd be right, but we do not live in a perfect world. When we can capture someone without killing them we should. When they are on western soil we have much more of an oportunity to do that and we do.
I do think that due process is the norm and most certainly it should spread as a civil right in all countries. But the contries we are fighting don't allow us to extract them all the time the way you want.
Now compaired to BUSH who bludguned the east, Obama would love to default to what you say, and compaired to the damage Bush did Obama is taking the lesser damage route.
FYI even on D-DAY our soldiers SHOT unarmed Germans trying to flee with no guns, shot them in the back. I know this because it was part of a memoral in which a soldier told his own story. He hated doing it and did not want to do it. I do not think Obama takes any decision he makes lightly nor would he kill if he knew absolutely he could take them alive.
Now again, if you have better suggestions I am all ears.