RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?!
November 8, 2012 at 1:15 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2012 at 1:15 pm by Edwardo Piet.)

(November 8, 2012 at 9:23 am)John V Wrote: Yes, a cyclic model is the best hope (the only hope that I can think of) for atheists to counter the first cause argument.
"If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument." - Bertrand Russell