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Do to really believe a snake talked?!
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RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?!
(November 8, 2012 at 2:41 pm)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: If the universe has always existed, why would that mean that it would have already died out by now?
Entropy. Heat evens out in time. Given infinite time (i.e. eternal existence), the heat would have evened out.

An alternative way to look at it is that something that has always existed doesn't have a beginning or an age. Mainstream science believes that the universe has a beginning (the big bang) and an age (14 billion years, or whatever it is currently). Therefore, it hasn't existed eternally.

If you say that the universe existed as a singularity eternally before the big bang, the problem is that there's no reason for the big bang. An eternally stable singularity is, well, eternally stable.

So, a cyclic universe is the best answer. As noted, though, so far no cyclic models work out.
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Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 12:26 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2012 at 12:38 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 8, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Minimalist - November 8, 2012 at 1:04 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cato - November 8, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 1:08 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 1:19 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Jackalope - November 8, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by 5thHorseman - November 8, 2012 at 4:46 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 8, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 8, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 9, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 9:41 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 10, 2012 at 4:31 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Kousbroek - November 10, 2012 at 8:46 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 10, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by festive1 - November 9, 2012 at 5:19 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 1:42 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cato - November 8, 2012 at 3:58 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 8, 2012 at 9:23 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by pocaracas - November 8, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 8, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by genkaus - November 9, 2012 at 4:30 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by genkaus - November 9, 2012 at 9:09 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 9:49 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by genkaus - November 9, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 9, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 8, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 8, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 8, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 8, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Darth - November 8, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Simon Moon - November 8, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Minimalist - November 8, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 9, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 10, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 10, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 11:09 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Minimalist - November 8, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 8, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 8, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Minimalist - November 9, 2012 at 1:34 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 9, 2012 at 1:42 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 9, 2012 at 1:54 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 9, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by KichigaiNeko - November 9, 2012 at 5:11 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by pocaracas - November 9, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by pocaracas - November 9, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by popeyespappy - November 9, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by pocaracas - November 9, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 11:48 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Minimalist - November 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 4:19 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 9, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by festive1 - November 9, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 10, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 10, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 11, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 9, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Kirbmarc - November 10, 2012 at 8:57 am
Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by festive1 - November 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Godschild - November 10, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by pocaracas - November 10, 2012 at 7:53 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Kousbroek - November 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Utracia - November 11, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by festive1 - November 10, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 10, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by festive1 - November 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Kirbmarc - November 10, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Cyberman - November 10, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 10, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by SpecUVdust - November 10, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Do to really believe a snake talked?! - by John V - November 12, 2012 at 9:17 am

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