RE: Atheist Church of the evolving Human God.
November 10, 2012 at 9:39 am
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2012 at 9:46 am by Greatest I am.)
(November 9, 2012 at 10:50 am)Ben Davis Wrote: No.
Atheism is not a faith/religion/church, it's a statement regarding one's position on theism.
All of the activities/properties which you've assigned to the 'atheist church' in your post could be achieved by entirely secular means; no church needed.
Also, why would anyone need to sacrifice anything to anything? Ever?
...or have I fallen for a troll?
I see that you have not quite understood what Mr. Haigt is speaking of.
In a nutshell, he is saying that if the atheist movement does not organize and give that organized body sanctity through sacrifice of some kind, it will not last long and die out.
You have escaped the fantasy world sold by religions and I congratulate you for that but you have forgotten your social conscience and duty to your children and grandchildren.
It is the sacrifice that somehow activates the longevity. I think it may be somehow tied with respect and willingness to perpetuate the sanctity of the movement. We seem to not put much value in what we do not pay for. Something like if you have to work hard to woe a conquest or having one fall into your lap in a happenstance way. They are both good but the one you sacrificed the time and effort to was much more rewarding. Remember?
The thing is though that if your type of guy and your group dies out in the time frame shown, you leave your children and grandchildren at the mercy of a stronger right wing. Do you want them to be able to do as they please with them?
Do you have girls ------
http://www.funnyordie.com...-******
or boys?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5YrB7TpT1Y
Regards
DL
(November 9, 2012 at 11:21 am)Minimalist Wrote: GIA is a bit of a strange duck but he has been around for a while.
GIA, if atheists "elect" a god ( marginally better than the invented gods of history) they become "theists." Not a very useful solution.
God in the sense we use that word now.
You know I do not mean that kind of God and I deal with that in the O P.
I just mean leader or figurehead.
The organization is what is important as that is what lasts for the upcoming generations. Please read my reply just above.
Regards
DL
(November 9, 2012 at 2:59 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I tend to be a contrarian.
When everyone at school was a mod I was a rocker.
(will americans understand what a "mod" is I wonder?)
Congatulations on that but this is not about you.
It is about those who come after you that you care about.
Please read the post above.
For the evils of religion to grow, all good people need do is nothing.
Regards
DL
