Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.

[Darkstar]

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I went for a girl without a doubt. But I did not stay because of the girl. The time spent chasing a girl was a waist of time. I did not learn nor did i experience anything.

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Exactly.

I spent a year chasing her around, and nothing did happen in my spiritual life, even though i went through the motions. It wasn't till it all fell apart that I began to ask why.. Why if their was a God was I being 'punished' for doing what He (or rather What i thought) wanted me to do? I concluded their wasn't a God, but was in constant contact with people and stories that told me otherwise. I was told if I wanted to know then simply take God up on the promise He made. Not the 'deal' I made with God myself. I was Mad enough to take God up on His offer.. I may have spent a year chasing after some girl, that nothing ever came out of it, But I did find God putting fourth 1/2 the effort.

Are you sure?

Yuup.

If you went to church for a girl, and you claim to have been an atheist, then why were you looking for god to spit in his eye when you didn't even believe he existed?

I never said I was militant. If you were to ask me then if God existed, I would have defaulted to the arguement most of you do.
"Look at all of the suffering in the world, look at all I have done look at all that God owes us, Look at what god owes me.." Because I could not understand how an all powerful God could be so defecient, I concluded their was no God.

That does not mean I did not want to know if their was a God or not. You all claim to follow the evidence and to be faithful to the facts, when in fact you are not. You are faithful to one interpertation of evidence and facts that MUST Always prove that God does not exist. This is not Atheism. This is known as Misotheism. True Atheist are netural. Netural means one can be influenced one way or another. You or rather your defination of Atheism says that Atheists are against the Idea of God. That again is Misotheism not Atheism.

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Well, really no. We stopped looking in the 'spiritual' way because it never worked. We look through every rational perspective there is and find nothing. If you were an atheist looking for god, then you were not neutral, you were bised towards theism. Instead, look at the evidence that is there and decide. Don't go looking for evidence to warp to fit a preconcieved notion.

I think it has been made clear that other people have had similar experiences. And not about god, about many things. Maybe some people have even had experiences like this about other gods (in fact, someone almost certainy has) but you instead choose to ignore this and just assume you are right without seriously considering what other people have to say.

What you guys Never seem to get is that No other god even claims to interact with it's people directly. those gods always use prophets or immesarries to interact with the common folk. Any good will comming from their god is a result of a good karma deal they have with him and his religion.

Except Islam, apparently.

And when god won't answer...

God always answers, 'we' just do not know what to listen for.

So that way you can arbitrarily toss out or accept any dream or coincidence as evidence of god...

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Actually, yes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in...ristianity
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Ah, no again.
I gave you a link to an actual translated memo of an Actual Nazi decree effectivly declaring the Nazi party/Hitler as God and you fire back with a wiki artical saying that the the germans Pre 1941 went to church? Again no. If you look at the two links provided you will note the first saying what your wiki artical said. Then July 1 1941 Hitler became a god. The memo I left a link to was declare that all Propagandist speakers and Party leaders submit to Hitler's world view and that all other 'commitments' be cast aside. Why? Because in September 1941 "Phase 3" began. the extermination of the Jews.
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/timeline/camps.htm

Many Nazis promoted positive Christianity, a militant, non-denominational form of Christianity which viewed Christ as an active fighter and anti-semite who opposed the institutionalized Judaism of his day.[35] Even in the later years of the Third Reich, many Protestant and Catholic clergy within Germany persisted in believing that Nazism was in its essence in accordance with Christian precepts.[36]

The Nazi leadership made use of both Christian symbolism, indigenous Germanic pagan imagery, and ancient Roman symbolism in their propaganda. However, the use of pagan symbolism worried some Protestants.[37] Many Nazi leaders, including Adolf Hitler,[38] subscribed either to a mixture of pseudoscientific theories, particularly Social Darwinism,[39] or to mysticism and occultism, which was especially strong in the SS.[citation needed] Central to both groupings was the belief in Germanic (white Northern-European) racial superiority. The existence of a Ministry of Church Affairs, instituted in 1935 and headed by Hanns Kerrl, was hardly recognized by ideologists such as Alfred Rosenberg or by other political decision-makers.[citation needed]

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The Nazis allowed religion for a time because they knew people would fight for their beliefs when directly opposed, but if they over time slowly erroded away their belief system, with propaganda and victories Hitler would become a god to his own people.

Well, you're half right. The nazis were'nt necessarily affiliated with a particular church, but they did use Christianity inspired anti-semitism as justification for the holocaust.

Your understanding of history is appaluing. I have little more than a history channel understanding of this time period and I know what fulled the hate for the Jews was the sanctions the german people under went after WWI. The Jews controled much of the Money in Europe and it was a combination of Jewish prosperity combined with German hurt German pride that rallied this nation back into another World War.

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Oh, so that quote was just propoganda to inspire religious sentiment, eh? Makes sense, doesn't it? In that way he is using religion to justify his actions, even if religion was not his primary motivation for doing it.

So now Cinjin and I are both nazis, nice. Which one of us is resorting to dishonerable tactics again?

See what hurt pride does? It scews your view. I did not call you nor Cinjin a nazi. I said you are using the same tatics Nazis used. What is wrong with you people? You are like the 3rd person to make that jump.

Okay, we use nazi tactics, so you say. Maybe if three people took it to mean that you said we were nazis, then you should at least reconsider whether or not it was implied. (With the same level of seriousness with which many presidential candidates have been compared to Hitler, of course.)