(November 12, 2012 at 5:05 pm)Drich Wrote:(November 12, 2012 at 4:38 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Except Islam, apparentlyIt would help if you read you links before posting them.You are adding fuel to my arguement. For the experience they are recording is one that Moses had (a prophet even to them) and only shared by a select few (emassaries)
So if they see Allah in a dream, you will [rightly] assume that it is not genuine? Then why do you not apply this same view to dreams about your own religion? /rhetorical
Drich Wrote:Darkstar Wrote:So that way you can arbitrarily toss out or accept any dream or coincidence as evidence of god...Absolutly not. That said 'God' is not the only one who can influence 'dreams.'
Really, the main thing to influence dreams would probably be your own ideas and life. God as a concept can influence dreams in that you might dream about god, but a dream is not evidence that the thing being dreamed about is actually real; which is, I think, the main argument being made against the OP.
Quote:Oh, so that quote was just propoganda to inspire religious sentiment, eh? Makes sense, doesn't it? In that way he is using religion to justify his actions, even if religion was not his primary motivation for doing it.Your not even on point here. If you wish to discuss further go back and re read what has been said.[/quote]
Either:
1. Hitler killed the Jews for a number of reasons; the main reason was religion, and he actively displayed this
2. Hitler killed the Jews for a number of reasons; the main reason was not religion, but he knew people would be more accepting if they thought it was, so he used [not exclusively] religious propoganda to win support.
Drich Wrote:Seriously? It have taken down this arguement to it's core meaning on three seperate occasions (Not including yours) Very carefully drawing the paralells, while clearly seperating your political beliefs from the tactics used.
I'll clarify this. I do not mean to say that you think we are politically nazis, but are comparing us to them as an insult.