RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
November 12, 2012 at 6:10 pm
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2012 at 6:11 pm by Darkstar.)
(November 12, 2012 at 5:59 pm)Drich Wrote:(November 12, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Darkstar Wrote: So if they see Allah in a dream, you will [rightly] assume that it is not genuine? Then why do you not apply this same view to dreams about your own religion? /rhetoricalAgain Read the Link YOU Provided! Even in their Dreams they can not see their god. He would consume them if he appeared before them. he manifest himself as some sort of light. How can one have a relationship with a being by his very nature would consume or destroy the very fiber of your being?
Missprint. I meant 'experience'. You can't see Yahweh either, or else you will die, according to the bible.
Exodus 33:20
"But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
Drich Wrote:Darkstar Wrote:Really, the main thing to influence dreams would probably be your own ideas and life.I do not disagree. Which further points to the uniqueness of what I experienced. My understanding of God was brought to a level that had not imagined.
...? Did you mean "that I had not imagined"? This doesn't really mean anything. If it was a dream, then you imagined it.
Drich Wrote:Darkstar Wrote:God as a concept can influence dreams in that you might dream about god, but a dream is not evidence that the thing being dreamed about is actually real; which is, I think, the main argument being made against the OP.The dream itself I would say not, for a dream is just a vessal. It is the content of said dream that makes all the difference.
Actually not really...
On what grounds can you claim that a dream was actually a telepathic vision from an otherwise undetectable omnipotent being? You might as well say a space themed dream was sent by aliens. You would have no less evidence for that than you would for your dream.
Drich Wrote:
I'm not disageeing. I'm only saying that religious propoganda was used by the nazis to smear the Jews. I said there were other kinds of propoganda, and that religion was not necessarily the driving force, either.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.