Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.

[Drich]

Question: If you wanted to spit in god's eye, then why was being seperated from him painful?

Once I was in the place of my judgement, my bitterness was gone. It was replace by fear. Fear because just by being their I knew I was screwed. Then when I first looked into the eyes of Christ I felt for a split second completeness and peace, coupled with a love that i can not even hope to describe. As soon as I understood what was going to be lost the shadow of my unresolved sin emptied me, and the love that I knew only for the breifest of moments was completely gone. I wanted that back more than anything I have ever wanted prior or since...

We were literally designed to be loved that way. To have it and to loose it is devistating... Now add insult to injury and be cast into a all consuming emptyness where you know you will NEVER be that complete again, and it is enough to make you say anything, even though you know you do not deserve what has been taken from you.

I guess that "a lot" of study can be done in twenty minutes, because I rejected the cavernlike hell in favor of a place of pure fire (whether metaphorical for pain or not) after about that much research on the subject. (Note that said reseacrh and conclusion occurred prior to this thread)

Where the time spent comes in is that you have to reconsile the two descriptions of Hell. What the Jews were given to understand is Just as True as what Christianity was told of hell. On the surface these two contradict.

So...why doesn't god also use shock tactics (perhaps even more so) on the insincere?

I don't know. Maybe He knows who is worth saving and who is not. Maybe the insincere aren't worth saving for some reason.

Sounds like some other atheist deconversion stories...but a bad dream reconvrted you?

I did not know God before this dream/vision.

And for those who want to believe and desperately seek god to find nothing?

Unless you fall into the catagory of Romans 9 We are promised to always find something. We may not find what we want but we will find an oppertunity. If we are faith to what we have been given we will be given more.

Were they doing it wrong?

Did they follow the model provided in Luke 11?

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Title: “Resurrection”

Explanation: A worried Jew watches a column of Storm Troopers giving the Nazi salute to a roadside crucifix. This is an interesting attempt to appeal to a Christian audience, and also of using Christian language in a new context. The suggestion is that, somehow, Christ has been resurrected in the Nazi movement. (#13/1929)

Caption: “One can do anything to those Goyim. Our people crucified their Christ on the cross, and we do a great business on his birthday....”

Explanation: A Christmas cartoon urging Germans to avoid Jewish shops was standard. (#51/1929)

However, these are prior to 1938.

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These are post 1933.

Headline: The Mobilization of the People

The cartoon shows a photograph of a Jew captioned “Satan.” Streicher regularly used the old religious argument that the Jews were in league with the Devil. This issue appeared as the last German troops in Stalingrad surrendered.

February 1943 (Issue #9)

This is the cover to the most infamous issue of Der Stürmer, the 1934 issue accusing Jews of practicing ritual murder to secure the blood of Christians to use in Jewish religious rituals. The headline reads: Jewish Murder Plan against Gentile Humanity Revealed. The issue actually got banned by the Nazis after it had been out for a while, not because of anti-Semitic content, but because it compared alleged Jewish ritual murder with the Christian sacrament of communion. A full English translation of the issue was published in the United States in 1976 by a group in the “Christian Identity” tradition.

Special Issue: May 1934

But there is also:

Title: Priests and Pastors

This was another anti-Christian story. On an altar of the Star of David stands the Inquisition and and hammer and sickle, with gaves and skulls in the background.

November 1936 (Issue #46)

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I suppose it makes sense. Hitler understood how easily religion [not necessarilly Christianity] could be used to manipulate people, and used it to his advantage.
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