RE: Uganda passing law that allows them to put homosexuals to death.
November 18, 2012 at 12:15 am
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2012 at 12:17 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 17, 2012 at 11:46 pm)Daniel Wrote: He most certainly is. I'm just explaining that it doesn't stop there.The medical treatment does, which in my estimation, is worth a great deal more.
Quote:Why don't you re-read what I said? He doesn't give patients gideon's bibles and tell them to repent and believe for the end is neigh. Because we - that's the Christians - are providing compassion and care to those in need, they are naturally interested in why we do it. That means they're asking us what our faith is, not the other way around. I know it's difficult for you to accept, but it isn't an operation that seeks to evangelize, it's there to address the needs of those who are outcast and in need of medical care and treatment.Oh, I read what you said, but I was politely refraining from calling fl;at out BS. Guess that can;t be avoided now. I've provided plenty of aid, both medical and just a helping hand or hug to people in third world shitholes. Never once did the recipient fawn over me pleading for me to explain my faith. Not only did it never happen to me, I've never seen it happen to anyone who was with me...and there were more of us than there are missionaries. All the opportunity in the world..and this little fantasy never presented itself. Your little anecdote and my experience are at odds,...and I find it entirely too convenient for the narrative at hand.
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Quote:You know, if a person is flown in from rural NSW to Canberra for emergency treatment at the hospital - what happens when they're discharged do you think? Yes that's right, they're put out on their own,Put out alive yes, what was the alternative again?
Quote: often with no money in their pocket to even get them home again. This isn't a huge problem for most of us, because most of us can call a friend or family to come and help us - but what do you think happens when someone is unable to do that? No money for a motel or a taxi or anyway to get back home because all their financials are back at home - what happens then? That's right, we the Christians are there to help get them home, the hospital won't even as much as put them up in a hotel or arrange a bus for them back home, they simply discharge them and leave them where they are - they don't even return them back to where they got them from!You mean, we. the human beings,. Being a christian is not a requirement for any of this..and I fail to see how a belief in fairies has anything to do with human kindness at all. But to each his own.
Quote:Now if we have this problem here in Canberra - one of the wealthiest westernised cities in the world - then don't you think there are many other problems patients have in underdeveloped countries?Yep, and one of those problems happens to be "missionary" douchebags with spotty track records spinning glowing yarns back home......
Quote:And you'll probably find most of those who volunteer for those non-religious NPO's are religious.I think you'll find that there are many religious people in the world. To you this means something, to me it does not. You can;t even handle the notion that you get outspent..lol, you have to find a way to claim it. Okay...okay.
Quote:Addressing the needs in communities is not about "our agenda". Again, nobody forces anything upon anyone, they're given the care and treatment they need without any obligation to either give back when they're able, or to join our religion. If it's our agenda, then how come we haven't gone and set up an Anglican church in Nepal? Can you explain to me that one?There -are- Anglican churches in Nepal.......and "for where two or three gather" after all.
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