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A Simple Question...or 3!
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RE: A Simple Question...or 3!
(November 17, 2012 at 10:20 pm)Daniel Wrote: The universe is not able to self-start. It breaks every seriously established model of physics as we have it and emerges into a purely academic theoretical level of, well, silliness to imagine such a scenario as where the universe can create its own set of laws from nothing at all.
The laws of physics and quantum mechanics all start to break down when you try to examine before time and space, before the Big Bang, and the universe's origins. Planck time makes no sense, mathematics becomes meaningless when you try to investigate said singularity.

It would be very unreasonable of you at this point to make any claim, either way, as to whether the universe started up independently or not.

To say "We currently don't know" would be the most intellectually honest position.


Quote:With that said, the Big Bang theory still has many merits, but it isn't the definitive truth as to the origin of the universe.
*sigh*

Your homework for the weekend:
Look up physical Cosmology, and then look up Cosmogony. Then tell me the difference and which branch of science does the Big Bang model actually belong in.


Quote:I most certainly am not agnostic. As I mentioned in another thread we have a serious astrophysicist at our Church who has had about 15 of his students go on to become science advisors to world leaders, and he won the Prime Minister's award for Science this year.
Do you hear that?

Listen.

...

That was the sound of universe not giving two fucks.
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A Simple Question...or 3! - by ronedee - November 16, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by festive1 - November 16, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - November 16, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cinjin - November 16, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by ronedee - November 16, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - November 16, 2012 at 11:38 pm
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RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 17, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by ronedee - November 19, 2012 at 12:20 am
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