Child abuse ?

[Tiberius]

*sigh*

Is there any point in even trying to be concise with you? I'm not even going to address most of what you said; much of it appears to be copy / paste from the Internet. If it isn't then I apologise, but you are being far too verbose. That said, let's address the main points.

I believe the goverment should have the right to set standerds on: what is education and what is not.

I don't. I think that's a very dangerous idea. One only has to look at oppressive governments to see why.

it is the law in my country, and I am defending the case for this kind of regulation because it works here and hasnt jet shown any signs of doing harm to our sociaty

...not doing harm to society does not mean it is fair or worth keeping. You are still suppressing the rights of people to teach their children what they want, and how they want.

These laws were past by democraticly elected goverments!

I don't mean this as a jibe at your nationality, but as a German, I'd have thought you of all people would know that "democratically elected government" does not always represent the will of the people. The Nazi's passed all sorts of laws as a democratically elected government; I doubt very much you would agree with them.

No, but it gives the right to point out the lies, fallacies and outright nonsence of others!

We're not trying to take that right away from you. In a fair society where people were educated how they wished, you would still have the right to criticize.

IF it exists.

...and under the scientific method, it must exist. If it did not, it is not good science. Plain and simple.

The scientific community has a absolute monopoly on determening what is scientific knowlege and what is not. Therefor the standerds of school education should be set by that community and it`s teaching made mandetory to preven potentialy dangerous missinformation.

How do you make the jump between the scientific community determining scientific knowledge and the scientific community therefore having control over school policy? It would seem the school itself should have that control; some schools will listen to the scientists, and some will use other methods, depending on which kind of parents they are hoping to attract.

Have you got statistics to back any of this up, or do you to claim to have an argument when all you have is baseless assumptions and predictions.

Why would I need statistics? Isn't it obvious to see that in multicultural countries, people of different religions and races are getting along fine? It's not perfect, of course not, but the fact that we aren't in a state of civil war between various religions internally seems to support my position more than yours. At the end of the day, when we are out in our everyday lives, we do not see each other as "Christian man" and "Muslim woman", we see each other as fellow humans.

You accused me of being a person who forces educational values onto people on a basis of nothing!

No, I did it based on your posts. You are still doing it. When you claim that only the scientific community should decide the standards of school education, you are forcing the empirical education value onto people. You might not think that you are, but you are.

you can not tell me that the average evangelical, homeschooled, homophobic bigot, who refers to everything outside of his sect as "evil secularism" or the average anjem choudary is a integrated member of sociaty.

I can think of at least one friend I have who is like this (though he wasn't homeschooled). He is very well integrated with society; he has a good job, he supports his community, and (more importantly) he is a good friend who I have relied on many times. We have our philosophical differences, but we mostly leave them at the door (unless we're both up for a good debate). I feel sorry that you have not encountered such people; without them I would still be like you, misunderstanding the religious and making what are (in my opinion) bigoted comments about people you have never met.