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How is Yahweh not immoral?
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral?
(November 20, 2012 at 11:49 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Whenever a story of god's immorality surfaces, one of the following apologetic arguments is used as a retort:
  1. That was the OT.
  2. You just don't understand the customs of the day.
  3. Who are you to judge god?

Let's look at the first one. What did Jesus really say?

He does not appear to have made any attempt to overturn them. Now, what if he did overturn them? This could only mean that god had made imperfect laws before.
A pretty weak straw man argument...
Quote:Now, we will examine the second defense. This defense hurts its own argument more than it helps. If the laws of the OT coincide with the inferior moral views of the day (i.e. slavery permitted, semi-regular mass murders, etc.) then this is more evidence that they were created by human minds. After all, Jesus said

Who are we to question his infalliable wisdom?
No, Paul said that and his scribe wrote it down, Jesus didn't say what you just quoted.

Picking and choosing the parts of the Bible when God is angry is not going to help your argument. Consider John 14:6-11 (Jesus did say this one FYI):


If the character of God is as immoral as you claim, then you would be able to prove it by showing everyone that the character of Jesus is immoral. But if, on the other hand, you find that the character of Jesus is moral then it can only mean that the character of God is moral. I look forward to seeing you address this specifically.
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How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 20, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 21, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 21, 2012 at 3:09 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 3:28 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 4:53 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 5:09 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Gilgamesh - November 21, 2012 at 5:11 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 5:58 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 21, 2012 at 10:51 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 22, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by 957Chatterton - November 22, 2012 at 6:23 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 6:02 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 6:41 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 6:46 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2012 at 6:43 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 9:01 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 9:50 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 10:11 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2012 at 10:52 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 21, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by genkaus - November 21, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 22, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by genkaus - November 22, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 21, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 22, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 24, 2012 at 2:28 am
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 25, 2012 at 1:32 am
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 24, 2012 at 3:19 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 25, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 25, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 25, 2012 at 9:56 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Brakeman - November 25, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by John V - November 21, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 21, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by John V - November 21, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 21, 2012 at 5:18 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 22, 2012 at 8:24 am
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Minimalist - November 22, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 23, 2012 at 12:38 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2012 at 1:29 am
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by KichigaiNeko - November 25, 2012 at 5:17 am
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Whateverist - November 26, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by John V - November 26, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 26, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2012 at 4:00 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 27, 2012 at 5:01 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 27, 2012 at 5:23 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 27, 2012 at 10:29 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Cato - November 28, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 28, 2012 at 7:45 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 28, 2012 at 9:49 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 28, 2012 at 2:20 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Cinjin - November 28, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Minimalist - November 28, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 29, 2012 at 12:33 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 29, 2012 at 2:04 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 29, 2012 at 5:34 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2012 at 9:51 am
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