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How is Yahweh not immoral?
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral?
(November 23, 2012 at 2:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:BECAUSE ALL OF IT STILL APPLIES! Otherwise if it passed away you all would be saved as well, and Christ would not have needed to die!

Then answer the question put to you above. How many sabbath-breakers have you stoned to death? How many unruly children have you killed for Yahweh the Bloody-Handed?

If it all applies then it ALL applies. You don't get to cherry-pick "god's" laws because you want to.

Perhaps now you understand why I think you are full of shit?
Do you still not understand Grace? The OT law and consenquences/punishment was to establish what would happen if one is outside of the Grace of God. Once Christ died then grace abounds or is shared in this life to everyone. Christ said He will "allow the Wheat and the weeds to grow together till the final harvest." Their is no need to 'weed' because God will sift the wheat from the weeds Himself. Just because judgement is not required upon discovery of sin does not mean judgement is not forth comming. The same OT wrath you are asking for will be visited upon the unrepentant sinner. Just not by me.

(November 23, 2012 at 2:20 pm)Kirbmarc Wrote:
Quote:The creator would not have automatic authority over his creation./Again being a creator does not give one the right over his creation. Especially if the creation is a sentient, rational and self-aware being.

Quote:Who says? You??? Why? Because You say so?

So according to you, Drich, if I create an artificial intelligence I can do it whatever I want, and it's never immoral. I think that most philosophers of morality would disagree with you. Sentient beings have rights simply for the fact that they're sentient. Even the (alleged) creator of those beings would have to respect these rights.
If it is 'artificial' then it is not intelligent. It is simply able to mimic intellegence. I believe the term you are looking for is synthetic intellegence.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_intelligence AI is an out dated 90's term.)

That said, If you were involved in this process in anyother way besides magic-ing a synthetic intellegence into existance then I would contend that you and your philosphers would be wrong. For if you would have written the endless code that would have sustained this conscousness. In effect you have control and responsiablity over that being. What if your program created real cylons or Sky Net? Do you not think you would be held responsiable by the rest of us? What if the cylons or sky net you created followed the Sci-fi dipictions of them and tried to take over humanity, would you just roll over and 'respect' their intellegent desision to destroy humanity, or would you judge this 'creation' to be 'sinful?' and do your part to stop them?
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How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 20, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 21, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 21, 2012 at 3:09 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 3:28 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 4:53 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 5:09 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Gilgamesh - November 21, 2012 at 5:11 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 5:58 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 21, 2012 at 10:51 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 22, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by 957Chatterton - November 22, 2012 at 6:23 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 6:02 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 6:41 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 6:46 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2012 at 6:43 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 9:01 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Zen Badger - November 21, 2012 at 9:50 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 10:11 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2012 at 10:52 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 21, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by genkaus - November 21, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 22, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by genkaus - November 22, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 21, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 22, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 24, 2012 at 2:28 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 24, 2012 at 3:03 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 25, 2012 at 1:32 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 25, 2012 at 1:43 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 24, 2012 at 3:19 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 25, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 25, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 25, 2012 at 9:56 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Brakeman - November 25, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by John V - November 21, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 21, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by John V - November 21, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 21, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by John V - November 21, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 21, 2012 at 7:16 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Aractus - November 22, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 22, 2012 at 9:26 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Minimalist - November 22, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 23, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 22, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Minimalist - November 23, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 23, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 23, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 23, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 24, 2012 at 12:22 am
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Cinjin - November 24, 2012 at 8:21 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Whateverist - November 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 23, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 25, 2012 at 1:45 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 25, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 25, 2012 at 1:57 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 25, 2012 at 2:11 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 25, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 25, 2012 at 3:09 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 25, 2012 at 3:34 am
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 25, 2012 at 4:40 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by KichigaiNeko - November 25, 2012 at 5:17 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 5:21 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 25, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 25, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Cinjin - November 26, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 26, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 26, 2012 at 3:30 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Brakeman - November 26, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Whateverist - November 26, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by John V - November 26, 2012 at 3:42 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 26, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 27, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 27, 2012 at 5:17 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 27, 2012 at 5:01 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Drich - November 27, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 27, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 27, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 27, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 27, 2012 at 7:37 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Minimalist - November 27, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 27, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Undeceived - November 27, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 27, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 27, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 27, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 27, 2012 at 8:24 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 27, 2012 at 8:45 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 27, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 27, 2012 at 10:34 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Undeceived - November 28, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 28, 2012 at 1:08 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Cinjin - November 28, 2012 at 4:25 am
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Cato - November 28, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 28, 2012 at 7:45 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 28, 2012 at 9:49 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 28, 2012 at 2:20 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 28, 2012 at 2:52 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Cinjin - November 28, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Minimalist - November 28, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 29, 2012 at 12:33 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 29, 2012 at 2:04 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 29, 2012 at 5:34 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 29, 2012 at 9:58 am
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Darkstar - November 29, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Ryantology - November 29, 2012 at 3:12 pm
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RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Faith No More - November 29, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by catfish - November 29, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: How is Yahweh not immoral? - by Kirbmarc - November 29, 2012 at 9:49 pm
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