(November 25, 2012 at 1:27 am)catfish Wrote: Therein lies your problem... You seem to only take what people tell you without doing your own research...This has nothing to do with research, this is the impression I am getting from Xians, because I know there are xians who don't believe most of those points, I was seeing how many xians would say yes I believe the points or no I don't. I was seeing how sane religious people really are, and you sound sane enough.
I am quite aware that "most" Christians think those points are true, but I'm not "most" Christians now, am I?
Screw what everyone else believes, make up your own mind...
Now, if you wish to debate those points as if they're true (or supposed to be true), bring me supporting evidence and be prepared to do your own legwork....
As an opener, I'll pick your #3:
"3. He only allows those who follow him without question to experience bliss and there rest get eternal punishment."
Here's a hint, figure out which Greek word was translated to "eternal" and tell me if you agree with the translation.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain