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Would you be an atheist if science and reason wasn't supportive of atheism?
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RE: Would you be an atheist if science and reason wasn't supportive of atheism?
(December 5, 2012 at 9:09 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: This presupposes a non-deterministic explanation and artificially removes deterministic explanations from the pool of live options.

Consider, for instance the possibility that "you got that ticket because someone who has access to all the tickets and knows the winner gave you the winning ticket".

This is a real possibility, and your example does not allow for it. It forces a non-deterministic explanation when there could have been a deterministic explanation.

That isn't quite the same. It would be more like if we supposed that someone used magic to change the number on the ticket. Just as this is a more extraordinary claim than getting the winning ticket, so is the chance an infinite god existing much lower than a finite and natural universe which we already know to exist arising by chance.
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RE: Would you be an atheist if science and reason wasn't supportive of atheism? - by Darkstar - December 5, 2012 at 9:24 pm

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