(December 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: You clearly answered nothing, when the challenge clearly states for YOU YOURSELF to inspire enough followers to conquer a nation, or even just the street you live on, by using human-made speech/literatue that goes against the wants of a mass of people, as proof that such an act is humanly possible. You've done none of the above. Debunked again.
Funny thing. I keep hearing from muslims that the west is the land of the great devil.
So how come no muslims have yet used al-qur'an to conquer western nations? Not even states? Cities? Blocks? Streets? If al-qur'an was truly the only word of god and therefore could be used to do such a thing [in essence living up to its own challenge], it would do such a thing.
It has not.
Hitler accepted the challenge, clearly. If I show that someone else, they, themselves rose to the challenge to inspire the masses to do things they obviously did not want to do, through their own human speech and literature, then why must I show that I myself can do the same? I am no orator. I don't even like talking to people, and I am not a violent individual [having firsthand experience in how horrible and gruesome it is to take another human life]...why would I wish to inspire conquest? Hence I give you evidence of others doing so themselves...and yet for some "reason," that is not enough?
You are apparently incapable of understanding the very core concepts of logic, the very basics of reason. Your arrogance is very typical of those who share your belief, which I always find amusing given how al-qur'an tells you that you're supposed to be humble and modest...but you've been anything and everything but that in your posts so far.
You are intellectually dishonest and inept. You are disingenuous, you apply faulty (circular) logic in a mad attempt to vindicate your position. You are the worst kind of person to debate with; the kind who claims to be certain of something even when shown they are horribly mistaken. You are a waste of my time and my own cranial resources. I can only beat my head against a brick wall for so long before I start getting a headache, and truth be told this is a fitting metaphor; you will not budge, and you are very dense.
In all honesty I realize you are completely brainwashed and indoctrinated. You are programmed. The cruel, twisted, elderly virgins who call themselves your spiritual guides got to you very early in life; I suspect you never had an opposing viewpoint ever presented to you during your formative years.
With that, I bid you good day. I hope you mull over what we have said in a genuine attempt to see it from our perspective as I have tried to see it from the muslim one over the years, as you owe it to us for coming onto our little internet social gathering and insulting our intellect rather blatantly and tactlessly, and to yourself because everyone owes it to themselves to enlighten themselves.
