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The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh
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RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh
Better evidence, or stronger claims? I once heard (read) someone claiming that Muhammad's excuse for not performing miracles was weak, therefore Christianity has more evidence. When, in fact, neither can be proven to have done what they did, miracle or not. Does it really boil down to which one has more miracle claims, and which has more made up stories about it? Also, this is argued from a perspective that assumes one religion must be right, and that atheism is not a viable option. If it weren't, then the arguement wouldn't be made at all.


THe problem is that NO ancient god based religion - NONE OF THEM - when you add up their varied and voluminous claims - can be true. IT is easy to dismiss ALL of them using their own statements that conflict with reality.
It is far easier to justify Confucianism and Buddhism - who do not accept the existence of gods - and being the best candidates - because they espouse morality simply because it is the correct thing to do.

The problem with the christianity, judaism, and islam - is that they make basic claims that cannot be true. IT is simply not possible for any being to be "almighty" as defined by their scripture ("Nothing is impossible with god"). On a good day you can bring up thousands of things where a god could only do or be one or the other - not both.

All three also miss the basic problem with their gods - that apparently the gods do not have to be moral or ethical and can murder for no reason without concern. THat the murders are normally against innocent babies and children makes it worse.

However - there is one even that makes Yahweh (Who is the Jewish god - not the christian one) - is the Holocaust. In every population of people - there are those of all ages - from Newborn to aged. We recognize that very young children cannot "sin" because they do not have developed power of reason and responsibility. So - that several hundred thousand INNOCENTS were killed is obvious and known.

IN law - you have the subject of "depraved indifference" in which a person who KNOWS that a major abuse will happen and does not report it or try to prevent it - is considered as responsible for the crime as the person who performed it. IF an all knowing god - therefore would have known about the event - failed to do something to prevent - it is just as culpable as the depraved germans who pulled it off.

Today - more than 1600 children under the age of 5 - will be physically and sexually abused by a family member (And the same every day of the year).
IF a god fails to do something to protect the kids - that god is a depraved indifferent. THink about it - it all the god does is sit up there - look down - and watch - sexual acts being done on underage children - that fits the description of a pervert. People who pray to perverts and expect something in return are called christians
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The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 10, 2012 at 8:16 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 10, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Cinjin - December 11, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by pocaracas - December 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Simon Moon - December 11, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 11, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 11, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Welsh cake - December 11, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Darkstar - December 11, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 12, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Cinjin - December 12, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 12, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 12, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 12, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 13, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 13, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 13, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Brian37 - December 13, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 14, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 14, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 14, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 14, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 14, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by overlord fombax - December 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 15, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by ThomM - December 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 11, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Jackalope - December 11, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 11, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 11, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 12, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Brian37 - December 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 13, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Brian37 - December 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 13, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Angrboda - December 13, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 13, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Angrboda - December 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 14, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 14, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 14, 2012 at 5:19 pm

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