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The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh
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RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh
(December 14, 2012 at 5:10 pm)John V Wrote:
(December 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm)Voltron Wrote: No. What draws you to that conclusion?
Your protest.

Can you tell me specifically what's wrong with the Gettysburg bit?

The Gettysburg address and the life of Yeshua bar Joseph of Maybenazareth are not remotely comparable as historical events. Gettysburg was a landmark speech by the leader of the free world a mere 150 years ago. We have several documented eyewitness accounts, 5 manuscripts given by the man himself to his secretaries which give us insight into the drafting of the speech, and coverage of the event in major newspapers around the nation the very next day. The speech's impact on history is visible and traceable back to a clear starting point.

For Jesus, we don't even seem to have a source outside of the Bible that even proves his existence, let alone one that documents his ministry, which supposedly swept thousands of people into its thrall. We have only secondary sources that seem to have originated at least 50 years after the "fact," many of which show signs indicating them to be deliberate fiction (i.e. Homeric references in Mark, non-prophecies turned into prophecies in Matthew.) How is our willingness as historians to accept the truth of the two events even vaguely part of the same discussion?
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The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 10, 2012 at 8:16 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 10, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Cinjin - December 11, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by pocaracas - December 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Simon Moon - December 11, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 11, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 11, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Welsh cake - December 11, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Darkstar - December 11, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 12, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Cinjin - December 12, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 12, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 12, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 12, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 13, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 13, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 13, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Brian37 - December 13, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 14, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 14, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 14, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 14, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Voltron - December 14, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by overlord fombax - December 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by median - December 15, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by ThomM - December 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 11, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Jackalope - December 11, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 11, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 11, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 12, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Brian37 - December 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 13, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Brian37 - December 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 13, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Angrboda - December 13, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 13, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Angrboda - December 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by John V - December 14, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 14, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: The Reasons to Believe in Yahweh - by Minimalist - December 14, 2012 at 5:19 pm

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