Reasons for God

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Evolution can't operate without the universe, which can't operate without God.

How so? How can't it operate without God? How is God required at all?

To give life to the universe perhaps, unless you think nothing did it?

The universe can't operate with God if he doesn't exist, and give me some evidence that he exists. Instead of merely asserting that he is required for the universe without actually evidencing that.

I don't understand why you think universes just exist.

You have to explain everything - not just evolution - to really explain conscious intelligence (physics, chemistry, abiogenesis, evolution, how does the universe exist, etc).

No one has explained it all yet. We don't know where the laws of physics come from. Some, such as yourself, claim that "God did it". But they, and you, fail to explain where God comes from - and also, how he's at all required. You are merely barely asserting that he exists and that he is required, if he exists, how does he? What reason is there to believe that he does? And how is he required in order for the universe to exist? Why does he have to cause it - or "create" it?

I know. You say "it came from nothing" or "I don't know - because I don't want to say what I really think". God is required to fill the void your brain creates.

Plus, evolution is not even complete as a explanation - still incomplete.

Evolution has more evidence being gathered all the time...science actually progresses, unlike religion. Evolution has tons of evidence, unlike God.

I think the universe is more than enough evidence of God.

And if you are suggesting - as I've seen you do so before - that evolution is "incomplete" because that it doesn't explain where life comes from (or even where the universe comes from): It's not supposed to. That isn't what evolution is about. Evolution is about how life evolves, not where it comes from, and it's got nothing to do with the creation of the universe.

Strawman. I didn't expect evolution to do something it isn't supposed to, but evolution is incomplete in what it is supposed to explain.

Know one knows completely where the universe came from originally yet, no one knows fully yet, no one knows of the first cause yet - But that's not what evolution is about, it's got nothing to do with evolution...

I didn't say evolution is supposed to explain everything, so there isn't much point in jabbering on about that.

...and what about God? How does he explain it? He doesn't: Because he's just asserted as an explanation, and an explanation isn't an explanation if it's just a completely unwarranted baseless assertion.

God explains the universe because He is an eternal thinker that could create the universe we experience. According to you, if your answer isn't nothing, then what is the explanation? Dawkins would say not to ask that question.

God is the critical answer that gives life meaning. Your answer of "I don't know" or "nothing" doesn't give life meaning, it means life is meaningless (except in the meaningless sense).
Well, when you wonder about the meaning of your life you define it in terms that suit you - a life that ends in destruction - free from responsibility.
When I consider the meaning of life I define it unselfishly in terms of God - a life that ends in Judgment. I live every day trying to walk the straight and narrow that Jesus described - the only lifestyle that God will have mercy upon and is pleased with... It is a life that is beneficial to mankind as a whole and nature too. I am a friend to the animals and plants, encouraging growth as much as I can...and discouraging evil and waste, which is a hindrance to growth. I believe in giving even when the favor will not be returned (e.g. helping the poor), forgiving people, confronting and settling disputes, and so on. These are the lessons of the Bible - they support true growth, growth that will last and not turn sour.

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You say everything needs an explanation, but what you mean is...everything except God! You refuse to explain God! Why?

Everything that we can see/experience-first-hand especially needs an explanation. We cannot gather evidence about God in the same way that we can gather evidence about the universe. God is one step beyond...or so.

God is eternal - and unexplainable. I cannot help you further I'm afraid.