(October 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That's where you go wrong. Your "personal creator" exists because you so desperately want there to be one.
Can you disprove what was actually said though rather than just disagreeing?
(October 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its existence.
Causality is a proposition, not a fact.
Logic suggests but does not guarantee truth.
If logic doesn't guarantee truth then why do you believe anything? Science is based upon proposition back up by data which is understood using logic. So what exactly is your problem?
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."
Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”