(October 11, 2009 at 8:48 pm)ecolox Wrote:Quote:The universe can't operate with God if he doesn't exist, and give me some evidence that he exists. Instead of merely asserting that he is required for the universe without actually evidencing that.
I don't understand why you think universes just exist.
Nice side-stepping that landmine.
ecolox Wrote:I know. You say "it came from nothing" or "I don't know - because I don't want to say what I really think". God is required to fill the void your brain creates.
You actually make an interesting point. When humans don't understand something, it is often equated with the supernatural and this, more often then not, meant god. However, discoveries are being made and new knowledge is acquired so often that the logic of god just seems plain redundant.
ecolox Wrote:I think the universe is more than enough evidence of God.
How is it exactly evidence for god? Please do share.
ecolox Wrote:God explains the universe because He is an eternal thinker that could create the universe we experience.
If he indeed created the universe as we know it, I wonder if he is enjoying the suffering he has created. Would you say he is?

ecolox Wrote:God is the critical answer that gives life meaning.
As I was mentioning a little above, when people do not understand something, they equate it to god. After all, how else would you explain something that isn't understood right? However, science is ever-progressing. Once you learn how something works, the need for god becomes redundant.
ecolox Wrote:I believe in giving even when the favor will not be returned (e.g. helping the poor), forgiving people, confronting and settling disputes, and so on.
That is good. I agree with you on this, though it is good to sometimes mind our own business

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"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." - Plato
“Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it...” - Richard Dawkins