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Reasons for God
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RE: Reasons for God
ecolox Wrote:God explains the universe because He is an eternal thinker that could create the universe we experience. According to you, if your answer isn't nothing, then what is the explanation? Dawkins would say not to ask that question.

God is the critical answer that gives life meaning. Your answer of "I don't know" or "nothing" doesn't give life meaning, it means life is meaningless (except in the meaningless sense).
Well, when you wonder about the meaning of your life you define it in terms that suit you - a life that ends in destruction - free from responsibility.

Justification is the prerequisite for belief. This applies to all beliefs... from our assumed knowledge to our blind trust in the untestable. All of us require our own degrees of justification before we will believe something. Quite personally, I cannot justify trust in something I have had no reason to trust. Anyway, according to the prerequisite for belief... you absolutely must have a reason(s) for why you have placed your trust in this specific entity. It is not unreasonable to ask why you have done so... nor unreasonable to ask what reasons lay your trust.

What makes him so? I know of many completely unrelated things that give life meaning... give it purpose... give it inherent value over the unliving. Our answers of "I'm not quite sure..." and "I don't rightly know..." are honest. We can rarely be 100% correct... this is a limitation which cannot be escaped... and anyone who claims otherwise... is simply arrogant.

Yes, a life that continues the circle with its end... I would not want it any other way. If life did not die, and make way for new life: there would be no new life. Even the greatest tree in the forrest must fall... for else the new seed has no room in which to grow. It is our responsibility as life to die. To do otherwise is to cheat death... and in doing so cheat the life of others. Why should honorable death be anything but the eternal peace of oblivion?

Quote:When I consider the meaning of life I define it unselfishly in terms of God - a life that ends in Judgment. I live every day trying to walk the straight and narrow that Jesus described - the only lifestyle that God will have mercy upon and is pleased with... It is a life that is beneficial to mankind as a whole and nature too. I am a friend to the animals and plants, encouraging growth as much as I can...and discouraging evil and waste, which is a hindrance to growth. I believe in giving even when the favor will not be returned (e.g. helping the poor), forgiving people, confronting and settling disputes, and so on. These are the lessons of the Bible - they support true growth, growth that will last and not turn sour.

It is statements like this quote... that show just how much hypocrisy and mistaken ideals thrive within this religion. So easy it is... to think we are right. So simple it is... to think we help. So laughable it is... to assume either is true. How is the bold not selfish of you, and how arrogant and egotistical one must be to believe it. How fantastic a friend... he who eats his friends. How discouraging of evil... he who worships a manifestation of egoism and arrogance. How giving a man... he who expects to be repaid. This italic is the true face of the Bible... the face of inequality and injustice. And this goes far deeper than the cover of the book.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 10, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Secularone - October 10, 2009 at 7:19 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 12, 2009 at 10:58 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 12, 2009 at 11:33 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 10, 2009 at 10:04 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 6:07 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 1:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 7:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 8:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2009 at 10:12 am
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 11:16 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 11:37 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 11:54 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 12:53 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 11, 2009 at 1:07 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 11, 2009 at 4:05 am
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 11, 2009 at 5:41 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Secularone - October 11, 2009 at 9:42 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 11, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Tiberius - October 11, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 8:15 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 8:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 11, 2009 at 9:14 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 12, 2009 at 12:13 am
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - October 12, 2009 at 8:50 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 12, 2009 at 5:36 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Retorth - October 13, 2009 at 8:54 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 13, 2009 at 2:42 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 14, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 15, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 3:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 17, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 18, 2009 at 12:59 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 18, 2009 at 9:39 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 19, 2009 at 1:37 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 19, 2009 at 6:27 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 19, 2009 at 10:21 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 8:53 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 16, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 4:41 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Darwinian - October 16, 2009 at 4:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - October 17, 2009 at 12:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Darwinian - October 16, 2009 at 4:58 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 17, 2009 at 10:47 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Retorth - October 18, 2009 at 3:41 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 18, 2009 at 6:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 19, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 20, 2009 at 6:07 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 9:52 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 8:56 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 9:55 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 11:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 22, 2009 at 1:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by AngelaRachnid - October 22, 2009 at 2:21 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 22, 2009 at 10:12 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 22, 2009 at 10:23 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 23, 2009 at 11:25 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 26, 2009 at 5:07 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 26, 2009 at 10:51 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 20, 2009 at 10:05 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 20, 2009 at 10:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Retorth - October 21, 2009 at 12:29 am
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 21, 2009 at 2:14 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 21, 2009 at 2:54 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 3:30 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:32 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 3:48 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 4:38 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 7:47 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 1:58 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 2:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 2:49 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:28 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 6:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by theblindferrengi - October 22, 2009 at 9:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ManOfScience - October 26, 2009 at 5:15 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 28, 2009 at 11:49 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Rhizomorph13 - October 26, 2009 at 5:28 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Tiberius - October 26, 2009 at 6:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ManOfScience - October 26, 2009 at 6:42 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 26, 2009 at 11:09 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 28, 2009 at 2:07 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 28, 2009 at 10:41 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 28, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2009 at 5:03 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 30, 2009 at 12:33 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 30, 2009 at 6:17 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Craveman - October 30, 2009 at 6:36 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 31, 2009 at 1:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2009 at 12:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - November 2, 2009 at 5:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - November 2, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: Reasons for God - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2009 at 5:08 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Dotard - October 29, 2009 at 9:11 am
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - October 30, 2009 at 2:50 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 31, 2009 at 12:09 am
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2009 at 5:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 30, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 31, 2009 at 10:16 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 31, 2009 at 6:38 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 31, 2009 at 11:10 am
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 31, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 31, 2009 at 7:09 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2009 at 5:23 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - November 2, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 2, 2009 at 2:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - November 3, 2009 at 12:53 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 7:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2009 at 8:11 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 8:19 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 3, 2009 at 8:42 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 8:50 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 7:29 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2009 at 7:44 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 9:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2009 at 9:56 am
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 5, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2009 at 3:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 5, 2009 at 7:23 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by quip - May 19, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Athene - May 19, 2016 at 3:07 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by drfuzzy - May 19, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - May 19, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by GoHalos1993 - May 20, 2016 at 6:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Faith No More - May 20, 2016 at 6:21 pm

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