Theological Breakthrough: Problem of Suffering Refuted, Permanently

[SavedByChrist94]

Yes, because atheists are always going around with signs saying "God Hates Fags."

Exactly, "atheist" slander God just like the westboro does, a True Christian doesn't make God look bad, ESPECIALLY when it's obvious that westboro doesn't accept John 3:16.

westboro are therefore a bunch of atheist wanting to make God look bad, wanting media attention, need to Read The Bible, need help as much "atheist" do" and are propaganda.

Thank you for proving my point.

I said God 'created' suffering, although 'causes' works, too.

If God did not want that to hurt, he could have created me without pain receptors.

Pain receptors aren't evil, they tell you something is wrong, it's supposed to hurt for your benefit, Causing someone to hurt is taking the good(pain receptors letting you know something is wrong) and causing it unecessarily. so yes without the pain receptors physically and Spiritually we would not know we are about to die or are doing something wrong.

Evil has nothing to do with pain and suffering. The Bible, you holy book, describes 'evil' as things like working on Sunday,

God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) told this to them to obey, disobeying is lacking good, lacking good is evil.

homosexuality (I have lots of fun with that one),

Do men biologically procreate sexually with another man or a woman? simple question.

wearing clothes made out of more than one fabric

Israelite Specific.

and eating shrimp.

Mark 7:19 and Israelite specific.

None of those things cause suffering directly. Indirectly, sure, but anything can cause suffering indirectly.

And there are some pretty natural things that cause quit a bit of pain and suffering. Death is a big one;

If God exists, and life doesn't end at the grave the there is no complaining, and it would actually be a gain to that person as they would go Heaven if they are In Jesus Christ. death is no big deal to be honest, no offense, only a big deal because you won't see that person for a while and it feels long.

I had a friend die last summer and that was painful for me and the rest of his friends and family. Our own death is probably going to be painful, too.

Who cares how painful it is? If Heaven exists then it's like getting pinched, Heaven exists, therefore no big deal and you need to move on, sure it's sad, but how does God cause it? He's going to(if you repent to Him, Jesus Christ) give you them back, so you just cause your own suffering.

Cancer is pretty natural and it's incredibly painful. Have you ever seen someone die, slowly and painfully, from parkinsons? I have. It's not fun at all. Have you ever watched someone's mind slowly slip away from them while they're in the grips of alzheimers? Again, I have and it's incredibly painful to watch; I can only imagine how painful it is to experience. Have you ever sat there with your partner while she went through a miscarriage? I have and, again, it was painful for both of us.

Death, all those things are a degragation of life, aka Death. Death is an improper function causing pain as pain Warns you(which is good) that you are improperly functioning. life doesn't end at the grave therefore no big deal. man caused death therefore no excuse.

Free will is a piece of shit argument. One of the first things God does is limit our free will.

How?

The claim is that we're all tainted with sin because of original sin, right?

you proved that you do not read The Bible, so now you lose all merit in talking about it, calvinism is a false doctrine, like "atheism"

Jeremiah 31:30 Instead, everyone will die for his own sin; whoever eats sour grapes--his own teeth will be set on edge.

Arminianism is The True Christian Doctrine. did you know Hell is the grave aka annihlation, premartial sex is not a sin(promiscuity is though), and desiring a woman isn't a sin? of course not but you do not Study The Bible

Does that mean I have enough free will to sin but I don't have enough to not sin? If God was so concerned with free will that he was willing to sacrifice himself to himself to change his rule,

Again with calvinism and Penal substitution, both un-Biblical, try again.

couldn't he have bothered to give us enough free will to reject sin on our own?

We do have free will...

Try again.

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[quote='SavedByChrist']
...and free will must exist in order for human beings with consciousness to exist.

I stopped here, because not only is this an unproven assumption in itself, it assumes that we have free will in the first place. If the very foundations of your argument are assumptions, I have no need to read the rest.

If you cannot choose to do something what are you? surely you cannot think, as thinking relies on choice, "what's going on?", "my opinion", "what I see", you can't thin and think is opinion. Free Will is a Necessity.