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sex before marriage
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RE: sex before marriage
(January 3, 2013 at 11:03 am)paulpablo Wrote: I dont know if this topic has done before, i couldnt find it in these forums but i might just be bad at using the search engine.
This question is directed more at muslims.
I have had quite a lot of muslim friends in my life and not one of them, even the more religious ones have taken sex before marriage seriously, do you know why this is?
Ive known muslim guys to have non muslim girlfriends so not only commiting sex before marriage but basically putting themselves in a situation where it will happen again inevitably.
Ive had a bengali muslim girlfriend who definitely didnt care about this and in fact only ever dated white non muslims for some reason.
Even the most religious guy i know who is a muslim has heavily hinted to me that he has had sex before and he isnt married.
His opinion was that the most important rule was to honour your parents and the rest of the sins were less important, but what are your opinions?

"I have had quite a lot of muslim friends in my life and not one of them, even the more religious ones have taken sex before marriage seriously, do you know why this is?"
This is probably due to the society they live in where fornication is allowed and permitted so will have a different view compared with the islamic one. Also it is probably because there iman (faith) is low meaning that they are not strong in islam so dont see any consequence of doing it or have an idea of you only live once. Also it could be due to that many muslim men dont have much islamic knowledge. Like many muslims do not know something as basic as tawheed(islamic monotheism). Alot of the times they appear to be very religious but are not truly following it. For expample if you go to birmingingham or bradford in the UK you will find many Muslim men with big beard always prayering but after they finish mosque go out selling drugs.

Many probably dont understand there religion or dont like it. So may be more cultural islam that their parents are muslim so just say their muslim but dont take much interest.

"His opinion was that the most important rule was to honour your parents and the rest of the sins were less important, but what are your opinions?"

I agree partly with that statement not giving your parents their rights e.g. being treated kindly and respected is a grave sin. But other sins are still important. I think that's a dangerous attitude there if you say that the others don't have as much importance.
The most gravious sin is Shirk (assoiciating partners with Allah) as when you die it can never be forgiven whereas all other sins Allah could choose to forgive as he is the Most Merciful.

On the viewpoint of sex before marriage. It is something Haram in Islam and a very serious sin. But people all make mistakes and they can seek repentance from Allah and say sorry, say they will never do it again, stay away from it and do some good stuff and he will forgive them.
I think it is important that we dont go pointing fingers at people and saying look he's bad stay aware from him as it's unislamic and will push people further away. That we should recognise that we should look at ourselves and our problems before judging others. Something which i never did as an Athiest and have come to learn now as a Muslim. I used to point out look all these bad things people are doing look at this is bad this is bad. Religion makes people hate other people say bad things. But at the same time i would take the mick out of people for believing jesus (PBUH) walked on water or for people believing muhammad(PBUH) split the moon or for people believing in stupid fairytales. And now i realise a complete hyprocasy in my mindset and teachings. Ive learnt That i should improve myself before commenting on others.
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sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 3, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 3, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 3, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Annik - January 5, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 5, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 4, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 4, 2013 at 9:25 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 5, 2013 at 5:08 am
RE: sex before marriage - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 5, 2013 at 6:23 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 5, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 5, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 5, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 5, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 5, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 10:27 am
RE: sex before marriage - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2013 at 12:29 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:42 am
RE: sex before marriage - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: sex before marriage - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 6, 2013 at 7:25 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:15 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:35 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 6, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 6, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:56 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 12:25 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 12:55 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 7, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Darkstar - January 8, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 8, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 8, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 8, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Darwinian - January 8, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 8, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Darkstar - January 8, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 8, 2013 at 8:47 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 8, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 9, 2013 at 7:31 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Cinjin - January 8, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Mister Agenda - January 8, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2013 at 1:27 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 9, 2013 at 8:17 am
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Magic Pudding - January 9, 2013 at 9:48 am

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