RE: Athiesm is a Faith?
January 4, 2013 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2013 at 2:22 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(January 4, 2013 at 2:10 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: Tick one box to explain the position that you believe the statement "A lack of faith in gods" implies in answer to this statement.
There is a GOD 1) yes 2) no 3)don't know 4) other ** if other please explain.
Agnostic atheist.
I don't know either way but as there's no evidence for any god or gods, I have no reason to believe, in any of them, or their claims.
You have to define and evidence your version of god before I can even begin to take any claims seriously.
(January 4, 2013 at 2:10 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:Fidel_Castronau Wrote:A lot of theists use the 'no accountability" argument to insinuate that we, as godless heathens, effectively get away with what we will because hey, who cares? Nobody's judging us!
I thought Theists believe the opposite
Ok.
(January 4, 2013 at 2:10 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:Fidel_Castronau Wrote:What about judging ourselves, not on spiritual terms, but by terms others can relate to? What about judging ourselves on a level we understand by, for example, by many lives we make better by being good people ourselves, or by not being total dicks?
Very nice; but in an Athiest world how and who decides what is good/bad
or is that up to each individual. Is there even a universal good/bad or would it all be relative?
Morality is subjective. A 16th century Scottish border town would find certain behaviours completely normal that we would be averse to, and the same is true the opposite way around.
The only people we can be accountable to are ourselves and each other.
To think otherwise is ridiculous.
So you're in court, and the jury convicts you of a crime and the judge sentences you, based on laws ratified ins a parliament comprised of men and women elected by your peers.
For the life of me, I can't see a god or 'higher being' involved there at all.
(January 4, 2013 at 2:10 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:Fidel_Castronau Wrote:I see this argument as the reverse of how a theist sees it. I honestly believe that some theists think like this becuase they want to be judged on a narcissistic level. "Look at me [god], look at all the good things I've done in my life".quite the opposite by personal my experience it would be interesting to have the pre Athiest feelings of those who were once Theists on if this would have described them.
Could you clear that sentence up? I didn't really understand it.
(January 4, 2013 at 2:10 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:Fidel_Castronau Wrote:And I read once that pride was a sin.Well its considered the worse one of the seven deadly sins but pride itself is not the sin it is the root cause of many other sins. The main meaning in the theological sense would be..especially holding self out of proper position toward God.
I literally didn't get any of that, sorry. Not because of the way it was written, just what was written. "One of the worst seven deadly sins but not a sin..." What? Huh?