Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.

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We know perfectly well how the world formed and can see planet formation around other star systems.



So they ignore what the bible says ,the only thing that supposedly describes god coz they don't agree with some parts.
This does not make my critique any less valid.


the theology of prayer is much more complicated than the simplistic attempt at a supposed unbiased test. For a start they should have all been told they were being prayed for or none told in order to be a fair test. but the only test that matters for me is my own test and it works for me and from what i've seen upto 85% of Americans beleive it works for them

but if you want to look at the results in test then at least be like this guy who looking at a test that says the opposite to above doesn't just assume the test results are accurate and actually dissects it. If he an atheist unhappy that the result went for prayer was completely fair on your test I wonder would it even stand up for him.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/g...odccu.html

In honesty if I were an Atheist I would not deny prayer works but rather ask why it works. There are plenty of "Natural explanations" around for why so accepting prayer works does not require you to beleive in GOD.

Prayer does not work dude.

We know perfectly well how the world formed and can see planet formation around other star systems. this does not answer my reply its just a restatement using what you said before with different words.

Firstly, I wrote about the the formation of the world and you decided to shift the conversation to the creation of the universe, quite a shift wouldn't you say.

Secondly, where did god come from? god would have to be an incredibly complex being capable of making all of creation, so how did this impossible being come to be.
You see by positing a god you just add to the questions and answer nothing