Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.

[Mark 13:13]

No it doesn't seem fair to my mind (uno where I go with that so wont bore you) , as far as appealing to reason why would I when reason took you to where you are along with whatever life experiences you had.

Well, if you can't appeal to reason, you have zero to offer. Like I said, anything else is an appeal to emotion, and emotions are a road block to the truth.

But I can't resist typing what was just on the tv as I glanced across, (I wasn't watching one of the kids was) . Maybe there's something in it for you or maybe it was just a co incidence but the Movie was the recent comedy NOAH and the guy who normaly plays GOD in these ( can't rem name ) is advising NOAH wife says something along these lines. When someone prays to GOD for courage do you think he gives him courage or the opportunity to have courage, or when someone prays for patience does GOD give them patience or the opportunity to learn to be patient so maybe if you pray to GOD for faith GOD provides the opportunity to learn to have faith.

I'm sorry, but I can't respond to this. My mother taught me that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Seriously though, try not to insult my intelligence in the future.

It wasn't for you ; I realised later it was for me ; it just didn't hit me at the time thats not to say there may not be something in it for you.