(October 16, 2009 at 4:58 pm)Darwinian Wrote: What does that mean? People are good without any faith, I know I am and so are my friends and family.Good point Darwinian.
It's not some sort of pseudo goodness is it, it's the real thing. And if you are only good because you believe that God wants you to be does that mean by nature you are actually bad?
@ ecolox, thanks for rephrasing for what I had asked you:
Quote:do I want to be good because I want to be, or because God wants me to beReally you could not be a good person withought faith?
It must be because God wants me to be...I don't think I could do it on my own without faith.

I see what you mean,
Quote:They may manage an "ebb and flow", as I mentioned, but I believe that is the best they can do. The world needs more than that though...anyone could see that. Those who are aware and do not take the steps to do more are guilty. It would be like watching a child drowning and doing nothing to help.You wouldn't save that drowning child if you didn't have faith.
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