RE: Science and Randomness
January 5, 2013 at 2:14 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2013 at 2:48 pm by Mark 13:13.)
(January 5, 2013 at 1:03 pm)Faith No More Wrote:Trying to finds another way of putting it, If science finds a process that it can't understand the mechanism for is that then deemed as random and if it is does science believe this is a temporary state of definition as in time it will understand stand the process and therefore it will be understood. So by this thought does science in general believe in the end it can discover the mechanisms behind every process no matter how small so that(January 5, 2013 at 11:14 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: Can a true Scientist ever accept that at some point there will be a limit to their ability to use science to understand the mechanism of a particular event and that, that event or those events be deemed as random and from then on science will be the exploration of the patterns and laws the result from these random process." beyond this point there be monsters"
You lost me when I got to the part I put in bold.
1)in the end there can be no random.. or
2) do scientists believe there will always be these random areas ( if I can define them as such for want of better words ) infinately regressing forever so there will always be in science an unknowable however small ..or
3) it will hit a definate area it can't peer into any further. or even
4) science can't answer this question
before i can explore the process of sciences and its opinion of creation
going forward I need to look at how science looks backwards and this knowledge gaps and randomness ideas i need to explore.
(January 5, 2013 at 1:12 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I might try a bite at it FNM, although it is vague:
(January 5, 2013 at 11:14 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: Can a true Scientist ever accept that at some point there will be a limit to their ability to use science to understand the mechanism of a particular event and that, that event or those events be deemed as random and from then on science will be the exploration of the patterns and laws the result from these random process." beyond this point there be monsters"(Take heed to the bolded part)
You surely need to know a bit more about Math, namely dynamic chaos. For now, you could listen to this old man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay8OMOsf6AQ
If you can't understand what he says, you shouldn't do that affirmation.
I understood but of course then we need to find the equations, the mechanisms that determine the numbers. even such silly things as what are the pages of the cosmos that allows the shapes to evolve
( metaphor ) ps whats FNM.
