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Reasons for God
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RE: Reasons for God
(October 16, 2009 at 4:58 pm)Darwinian Wrote: What does that mean? People are good without any faith, I know I am and so are my friends and family.

What do you do that makes you good?

Quote:It's not some sort of pseudo goodness is it, it's the real thing. And if you are only good because you believe that God wants you to be does that mean by nature you are actually bad?

Yes, I believe it is natural to be bad - with an ebb and flow being the best you can be.
(October 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm)Amphora Wrote: You wouldn't save that drowning child if you didn't have faith.

Apparently. We see a lot of this via abortions.
(October 17, 2009 at 12:33 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I find the assertion that only through god can you be REALLY good incredibly condescending and arrogant.

So what?

Quote:As Darwinian has already pointed out he considers himself to be a good person and I agree, yet because he does not beieve in an almighty god his goodness is somehow less good than yours.

I'm not claiming to be better than you or Darwinian. My faith may be very weak... I'm just pointing out that faith could increase one's capacity to be good.

Quote:Even when your goodness is down to impress a supernatural being and Darwinians is just because he is good.
If anyhing this devalues goodness done for religion rather than just because we are good.

That doesn't make sense.
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Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 10, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Secularone - October 10, 2009 at 7:19 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 12, 2009 at 10:58 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 12, 2009 at 11:33 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 10, 2009 at 10:04 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 6:07 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 1:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 7:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 8:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2009 at 10:12 am
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 11:16 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 11:37 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 11:54 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 12:53 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 11, 2009 at 1:07 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 11, 2009 at 4:05 am
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 11, 2009 at 5:41 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Secularone - October 11, 2009 at 9:42 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 11, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Tiberius - October 11, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 8:15 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 8:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 11, 2009 at 9:14 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 12, 2009 at 12:13 am
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - October 12, 2009 at 8:50 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 12, 2009 at 5:36 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Retorth - October 13, 2009 at 8:54 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 13, 2009 at 2:42 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 14, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 15, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 3:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 17, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 18, 2009 at 12:59 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 18, 2009 at 9:39 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 19, 2009 at 1:37 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 19, 2009 at 6:27 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 19, 2009 at 10:21 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 8:53 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 16, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 4:41 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Darwinian - October 16, 2009 at 4:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - October 17, 2009 at 12:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Darwinian - October 16, 2009 at 4:58 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 17, 2009 at 10:47 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Retorth - October 18, 2009 at 3:41 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 18, 2009 at 6:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 19, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 20, 2009 at 6:07 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 9:52 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 8:56 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 9:55 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 11:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 22, 2009 at 1:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by AngelaRachnid - October 22, 2009 at 2:21 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 22, 2009 at 10:12 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 22, 2009 at 10:23 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 23, 2009 at 11:25 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 26, 2009 at 5:07 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 26, 2009 at 10:51 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 20, 2009 at 10:05 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 20, 2009 at 10:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Retorth - October 21, 2009 at 12:29 am
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 21, 2009 at 2:14 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 21, 2009 at 2:54 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 3:30 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:32 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 3:48 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 4:38 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 7:47 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 1:58 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 2:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 2:49 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:28 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 6:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by theblindferrengi - October 22, 2009 at 9:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ManOfScience - October 26, 2009 at 5:15 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 28, 2009 at 11:49 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Rhizomorph13 - October 26, 2009 at 5:28 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Tiberius - October 26, 2009 at 6:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ManOfScience - October 26, 2009 at 6:42 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 26, 2009 at 11:09 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 28, 2009 at 2:07 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 28, 2009 at 10:41 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 28, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2009 at 5:03 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 30, 2009 at 12:33 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 30, 2009 at 6:17 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Craveman - October 30, 2009 at 6:36 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 31, 2009 at 1:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2009 at 12:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - November 2, 2009 at 5:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - November 2, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: Reasons for God - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2009 at 5:08 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Dotard - October 29, 2009 at 9:11 am
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - October 30, 2009 at 2:50 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 31, 2009 at 12:09 am
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2009 at 5:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 30, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 31, 2009 at 10:16 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 31, 2009 at 6:38 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 31, 2009 at 11:10 am
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 31, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 31, 2009 at 7:09 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2009 at 5:23 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - November 2, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 2, 2009 at 2:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - November 3, 2009 at 12:53 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 7:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2009 at 8:11 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 8:19 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 3, 2009 at 8:42 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 8:50 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 7:29 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2009 at 7:44 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 9:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2009 at 9:56 am
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 5, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2009 at 3:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 5, 2009 at 7:23 pm
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RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - May 19, 2016 at 2:34 pm
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