RE: Reasons for God
October 17, 2009 at 10:47 pm
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2009 at 11:09 pm by ecolox.)
(October 16, 2009 at 4:58 pm)Darwinian Wrote: What does that mean? People are good without any faith, I know I am and so are my friends and family.
What do you do that makes you good?
Quote:It's not some sort of pseudo goodness is it, it's the real thing. And if you are only good because you believe that God wants you to be does that mean by nature you are actually bad?
Yes, I believe it is natural to be bad - with an ebb and flow being the best you can be.
(October 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm)Amphora Wrote: You wouldn't save that drowning child if you didn't have faith.
Apparently. We see a lot of this via abortions.
(October 17, 2009 at 12:33 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I find the assertion that only through god can you be REALLY good incredibly condescending and arrogant.
So what?
Quote:As Darwinian has already pointed out he considers himself to be a good person and I agree, yet because he does not beieve in an almighty god his goodness is somehow less good than yours.
I'm not claiming to be better than you or Darwinian. My faith may be very weak... I'm just pointing out that faith could increase one's capacity to be good.
Quote:Even when your goodness is down to impress a supernatural being and Darwinians is just because he is good.
If anyhing this devalues goodness done for religion rather than just because we are good.
That doesn't make sense.