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Reasons for God
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RE: Reasons for God
(October 19, 2009 at 1:37 am)ecolox Wrote:
(October 18, 2009 at 9:39 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I still fail to see how you have explained how having "Faith" in God makes you be able to care when others don't. Because you just asserted that it matters to you and applies to you personally because you feel that you wouldn't have a reason to care without it... and you also just asserted - it seems - that God is required for "Faith" and faith is required for true morality. And so, the reason why "faith" is required is because God is required and he is required for faith...

But you haven't actually explained how "Faith" is required, how it is given to us by God as a choice to 'have faith' in him and how we somehow would be unable to care without him.

I thought I explained that faith, both in general, as a concept, and in God, enables a person to do more (e.g. suicide bombers, the saints, etc). I want to do more, everything else is meaninglessness, so I seek God. Now I can do more, and I do. This is why I seek/believe in God, so that I am able to do more good.

I didn't say you were incapable of caring, I said you can care with constraints - e.g. survival. For example, give us a random selection of your general goals in life. Be honest.

What is it that you do that makes you think that you are good? How do you live out how much you care about others?

You just sound like you are totally uninspired and unsatisfied by the natural world, i feel sorry for you, you're missing out on a big chunk of reality with your religious escapism.

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*Edit* There you go fr0d0
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Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 10, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Secularone - October 10, 2009 at 7:19 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 12, 2009 at 10:58 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 12, 2009 at 11:33 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 10, 2009 at 10:04 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 6:07 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 1:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 7:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 8:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2009 at 10:12 am
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 11:16 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 11:37 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 10, 2009 at 11:54 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 12:53 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 11, 2009 at 1:07 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 11, 2009 at 4:05 am
RE: Reasons for God - by padraic - October 11, 2009 at 5:41 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Secularone - October 11, 2009 at 9:42 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 11, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Tiberius - October 11, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 8:15 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 8:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 11, 2009 at 9:14 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 12, 2009 at 12:13 am
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RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 12, 2009 at 5:36 pm
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RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 14, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 15, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 3:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 17, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 18, 2009 at 12:59 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 18, 2009 at 9:39 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 19, 2009 at 1:37 am
RE: Reasons for God - by theVOID - October 19, 2009 at 6:27 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 19, 2009 at 10:21 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 8:53 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 16, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 4:41 pm
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RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 17, 2009 at 10:47 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Retorth - October 18, 2009 at 3:41 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 18, 2009 at 6:48 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 19, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 20, 2009 at 6:07 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 9:52 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 8:56 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 9:55 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 20, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2009 at 11:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 22, 2009 at 1:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by AngelaRachnid - October 22, 2009 at 2:21 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 22, 2009 at 10:12 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Amphora - October 22, 2009 at 10:23 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 23, 2009 at 11:25 pm
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RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 20, 2009 at 10:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Retorth - October 21, 2009 at 12:29 am
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RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 21, 2009 at 2:54 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 3:30 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:32 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 3:48 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 4:38 am
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 7:47 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 1:58 pm
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RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 2:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 2:49 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 3:28 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - October 22, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2009 at 6:48 pm
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RE: Reasons for God - by ManOfScience - October 26, 2009 at 6:42 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 26, 2009 at 11:09 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 28, 2009 at 2:07 am
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RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 28, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2009 at 5:03 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 30, 2009 at 12:33 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 30, 2009 at 6:17 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Craveman - October 30, 2009 at 6:36 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 31, 2009 at 1:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2009 at 12:03 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - November 2, 2009 at 5:19 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - November 2, 2009 at 9:24 am
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RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Dotard - October 29, 2009 at 9:11 am
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RE: Reasons for God - by ecolox - October 31, 2009 at 12:09 am
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2009 at 5:33 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 30, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 31, 2009 at 10:16 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Ace Otana - October 31, 2009 at 6:38 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 31, 2009 at 11:10 am
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - October 31, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Minimalist - October 31, 2009 at 7:09 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2009 at 5:23 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - November 2, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 2, 2009 at 2:26 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by downbeatplumb - November 3, 2009 at 12:53 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 7:10 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2009 at 8:11 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 8:19 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 3, 2009 at 8:42 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 3, 2009 at 8:50 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 7:29 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2009 at 7:44 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 9:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2009 at 9:56 am
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 5, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2009 at 3:24 pm
RE: Reasons for God - by chatpilot - November 5, 2009 at 7:23 pm
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