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the wife beating verse
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RE: the wife beating verse
(January 9, 2013 at 6:44 pm)paulpablo Wrote: yeh so the islamic religion is one that comes straight from the source of god..........to an illiterate man, but then he couldnt write so other people wrote the recitation down for him, but then they didnt compile the book because the recitation was over several years so the book was compilater later, which was then translated into english, but then the translated words didnt mean the right things so they had to be revised and retranslated by scholars to match up with whats morally and scientifically correct.
And the sunnah which isnt even the word of god but the word of some men who supposedly lived around the time of muhammed but a lot of these muslims agree are fake because by the 9th century they had mushroomed into hundreds and thousands of them so then a bunch of other scholars use their own opinion about which to follow and which not to follow.

All i can say is gods communication skills with humanity arent that good, especially if youre a muslim and happen to believe this stuff.

In fact on the website im looking at now a muslim asks the following questions

1. Did Muhammad bring one or two books?

2. Why did the hadith take 250-350 years to be compiled and why do Sunnis have different collections from Shi'ites?

3. What factors led to the emergence of the hadith?

4. What is the connection between the hadith and the decline and backwardness of Islam?34

i mean according to what ive been looking into recently there isnt even historical evidence muhammed existed, outside of the hadith and quran so i wouldnt even bother to ask these questions.

The reason why it was revealed to an illiterate man is to show the miracle of the Qur'an. How could an illiterate man recite a book that no one has been able to match to this day?
"And the sunnah which isnt even the word of god but the word of some men who supposedly lived around the time of muhammed"
The Arabic word Sunnah has come to denote the way Prophet Muhammad (S), the Messenger of Allah, lived his life. The Sunnah is the second source of Islamic jurisprudence, the first being the Qur’an. Both sources are indispensable; one cannot practice Islam without consulting both of them.
The Arabic word hadith (pl. ahadith) is very similar to Sunnah, but not identical. A hadith is a narration about the life of the Prophet (S) or what he approved - as opposed to his life itself, which is the Sunnah as already mentioned.
Many hadith are weak or false which is why only Sahih or authentic hadiths should be trusted.
If are interested in hadith, research the science of hadith which is very complex and interesting subject.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/Ulum/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/...ences.html
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the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Minimalist - January 5, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 5, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Minimalist - January 5, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 10:34 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 9:30 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 10:31 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 6, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 6, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Waratah - January 6, 2013 at 6:42 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Waratah - January 7, 2013 at 7:09 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 6, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:15 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 11:42 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Violet - January 7, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 7, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 12:15 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 7, 2013 at 1:06 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 1:14 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Violet - January 7, 2013 at 1:22 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 7, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 7, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Violet - January 7, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 7, 2013 at 6:11 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Violet - January 7, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 7, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Violet - January 7, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 8, 2013 at 10:39 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Violet - January 8, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 8, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Violet - January 8, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 9, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 7, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Violet - January 7, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 7, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 7, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by pocaracas - January 7, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Waratah - January 7, 2013 at 11:42 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 8, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Waratah - January 8, 2013 at 8:45 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 8, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 8, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 8, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Waratah - January 8, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 8, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 9, 2013 at 7:40 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Waratah - January 9, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 9, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 9, 2013 at 5:07 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 9, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Creed of Heresy - January 9, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by pocaracas - January 8, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 8, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Al-Fatihah - January 9, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2013 at 5:09 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 9, 2013 at 5:14 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 5:27 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 9, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 5:39 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 9, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 9, 2013 at 6:44 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 10, 2013 at 7:14 am
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 10, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 10, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 10, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 11, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 14, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 14, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by paulpablo - January 9, 2013 at 5:32 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 9, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 9, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 9, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Ryantology - January 9, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 9, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Ryantology - January 10, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Darkstar - January 11, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: the wife beating verse - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 14, 2013 at 6:53 pm

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