RE: Discussion about morals
October 23, 2009 at 6:41 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2009 at 6:50 pm by AngelaRachnid.)
(October 23, 2009 at 1:43 pm)Ephrium Wrote: This is a discussion, without God whether there is such a thing as morals. I am of the opinion that there is not.
The other day while cycling into town, i stopped to help an older bloke get a large chair into the back of his car, he was struggling and needed a hand, I had a minute to spare so stopped and helped him. After helping him he asked me to wait while he got some money to pay me, I said it was Ok, I explained that it was a sad day when you cannot just stop and help someone without expecting to receive/to give a reward and just put it down to my NON christian attitude, we laughed and I went away.
No god but helped someone else for nothing.
just been down my local had a few drinks, nothing worth pulling, scored some green, now in some peoples eyes I am morally wrong to do all of those things.
Morals are subjective, I am Anti Animal Rights, I know to much about those people, the lies they tell etc, So to an AR person I am moral scum, even though the work i do and the money i raise for animals goes to animals not some AR pocket.
If you look at the sources for god and the words he is suppose to speak they are not very moral in my eyes, maybe in the followers but not mine.
Thousands of people do moral things everyday without god being even close. So you cannot say that without gods there are no morals, helping each other out for future credit or in exchange is possibly how the whole social structure of humans originated.
just me tuppence
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(October 23, 2009 at 4:22 pm)rjh4 Wrote: Because honestly, if I think from a pack survival view point, I could care less what happens on the other side of the world as long as my "pack" will survive. Why would I care if they destroyed themselves as long as my "pack" was ok (again, if I thought from a pack survival viewpoint)?
So you are saying that when the 2006? tsunami struck that athiests didnt give a dam but fundis did?
What if that pack was the same cult as yours? would you care then?
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