RE: Why do atheists even bother about debating Jesus?
January 30, 2013 at 6:25 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2013 at 6:33 pm by catfish.)
The "sign" that a maiden would give birth was to be a sign that the current seige would cease, it wasn't about the messiah.
A virgin birth would also break the lineage of the Messiah, hence Yeshua wouldn't have been a decendant of David as predicted.
The jews were racists, Yeshua being born in Bethleham was because they didn't like Nazarenes. (they hated a lot of tribes back then)
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I know you guys hate quotes, but this also speaks volumes to what has happened:
1 Timothy 1:3-7 New International Version (NIV)
3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer 4 or to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith. 5 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6 Some have departed from these and have turned to meaningless talk. 7 They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
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And this...
1 Timothy 1:1 New International Version (NIV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,
Notice how God is their savior and Yeshua is separate?
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A virgin birth would also break the lineage of the Messiah, hence Yeshua wouldn't have been a decendant of David as predicted.
The jews were racists, Yeshua being born in Bethleham was because they didn't like Nazarenes. (they hated a lot of tribes back then)
.
I know you guys hate quotes, but this also speaks volumes to what has happened:
1 Timothy 1:3-7 New International Version (NIV)
3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer 4 or to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith. 5 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6 Some have departed from these and have turned to meaningless talk. 7 They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
.
And this...
1 Timothy 1:1 New International Version (NIV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,
Notice how God is their savior and Yeshua is separate?
.