RE: Why do atheists even bother about debating Jesus?
January 31, 2013 at 6:06 am
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2013 at 6:37 am by catfish.)
(January 30, 2013 at 10:59 pm)cato123 Wrote:(January 30, 2013 at 9:13 pm)catfish Wrote: Since you don't have evidence... BULLSHIT!!!
Seriously man, think of what you just did there, get back to me if you can resolve that, mmm'kay?
If I am lacking evidence, why don't you provide it?
I think what we are now discussing is what each of us considers a compelling standard of evidence. Photographic technology didn't exist at the time Jesus was supposed to have existed. There are also no first hand accounts of his ministry; not one.
I can quickly provide first hand testimonies and photographs of Big Foot, the Loch Ness Monster, and chupacabra. Based on your standard of evidence you must consider the above existent animal species or admit that your belief in the existence of Jesus is based on some non-evidential criteria.
Seriously? You base your assertion of bullshit on "no evidence". So I want to see your eveidence of no evidence, get it? (in case you STILL don't understand where your logic fails, no evidence does NOT = evidence, get it???)
Based on your faulty logic and response, since I don't have evidence, why don't YOU provide it for me? Holy fuck people, you do realise how stupidly hypocritical that is, don't you???
And, you have to research things for yourself. You will just dismiss whatever I provide anyway, like all good atheists do...
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(January 31, 2013 at 5:12 am)Confused Ape Wrote:(January 30, 2013 at 6:47 pm)ThomM Wrote: Actually - the MYTH of the "jesus" is far more obvious to Jews because the stories about him show a very definite lack of understanding of the Jewish religion as well as the Jewish law at that time.
First - the bible goes out of its way to show that Joseph had NO marital relations with Mary until after the birth of the boy. Under jewish law - it would have been heresy to claim that the boy's father was "god" - and it would have required Mary to actually marry the real father of the boy. Of course - she would have been stoned to death for the heresy. AS a child conceived out of wedlock - the christ would not have been trained as a teacher of the religion - and would not have been given access to the temples.
Thanks for suggesting another line of argument. .
It's always good to research the "opposition". Muslims bring up a few good points too, but they're under the impression that their holy book hasn't been corrupted too, so take it with a grain of salt.
I like teasing some Christians by saying: "If it wasn't for this whole Yeshua thing and my lack of Hebrew, I'd be Jewish"...
There are Messianic Jews btw...
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