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Why do atheists even bother about debating Jesus?
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RE: Why do atheists even bother about debating Jesus?
(January 31, 2013 at 6:06 am)catfish Wrote: It's always good to research the "opposition".

The opposition here is looking at Jewish law from an historical perspective. Is the Christian concept of Jesus feasible when he's seen against the reality of Palestine at the time he's supposed to have lived?

(January 31, 2013 at 6:06 am)catfish Wrote: There are Messianic Jews btw...

I found a website for them.

http://www.menorah.org/index.html

Quote:A Messianic Jewish resource ministry about Messiah Jesus (Yeshua), helping others to know Him, the Bible, Biblical Jewish roots of Christianity, Israel and God's plan of eternal redemption/salvation.
Traditional Judaism doesn't recognise Jesus as being the Messiah, though.

http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm

Quote:The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

The idea of the Messianic Age seems to have inspired the idea of the Second Coming in Christianity.

Quote:The world after the messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come. This term can cause some confusion, because it is also used to refer to a spiritual afterlife. In English, we commonly use the term "messianic age" to refer specifically to the time of the messiah.

Olam Ha-Ba will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people (Isaiah 2:4). Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. Some authorities suggest that the laws of nature will change, so that predatory beasts will no longer seek prey and agriculture will bring forth supernatural abundance (Isaiah 11:6-11:9). Others, however, say that these statements are merely an allegory for peace and prosperity.

All of the Jewish people will return from their exile among the nations to their home in Israel (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). The law of the Jubilee will be reinstated.
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