(January 31, 2013 at 1:23 pm)catfish Wrote:This is mental masturbation, it does not address evolutionary biology or even clinical psychology. Someone sold you this crap logic and now you are trying to slip your pet deity in the back door by trying to distract us with elaborate crap.(January 31, 2013 at 12:38 pm)Question Mark Wrote: I wouldn't mind, but when people start telling me what it is I think, that's when I get indignant, and I just stop. There's no point talking to dishonest people, or people who so easily mistake what I'm saying when I think I'm being quite clear. If I'm not being clear, point it out and I'll clarify it. Don't just make up something and make a strawman.
You said originally:
"Unfortunately I don't believe the truth of something is able to be expressed as a percentage, because the reality of something is that it's there, or it's not, but it is only one of those two things, either 100% there, or 100% not there"
I interpretted that as "black or white" It's either true or not according to your words.
I gave you a rather simple explaination of how visual perception is NOT 100% accurate which you did not dispute.
Instead of disputing that "fact", you made excuses for why you trusted it and why you didn't think it was an hallucination.
"Well a hallucination would be when the brain is doing this incorrectly because of some adverse effect, certainly, but I wouldn't say I'm hallucinating when no adverse effects are present. My vision has proven itself reliable to determining my surroundings for the vast majority of my life when I haven't had some detrimental illness or medicine inhibiting my brain's functions"
Without disputing the visual perception analogy, you then reiterate:
" I do not take it on faitht hat there is light present when I see things, I use my other senses at the same time to determine whether what I'm seeing is accurate."
Like I said... If you can't recognise that I see some things as a percentage of "true", then there's not much more we can discuss.
So you call me dishonest, yet believe your visual perceptions which are NOT 100% accurate are in fact, 100% accurate...
Basically what you're doing is asserting that your visual perceptions are 100% accurate using an inaccurate meassuring device. And all of this is done in your head (like mine) based on what?
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Stripped down all you are saying is "gap gap gap" and too dense to see that is actually what you are doing and all claimants of gods do.
AND NO our thought processes are NOT like yours.