(February 3, 2013 at 7:24 am)catfish Wrote: This is where you use your God-given right to be a cherrypicker and trust in your own moral judgement.
According to the text:
No man can be ransomed who is/was doomed to destruction. (all of us?)
No persons should be put to death for the sins of another.
There would be secret heresies introduced.
The people and teachers would turn aside to myths.
There is no mediator between man and God.
YHWH is salvation...
Jesus is supposed to have known Jewish law inside out and he often called the Pharisees hypocrites. If God is meant to have condemned animal sacrifices, Jesus's motives for The Cleansing Of The Temple would have been about more than just livestock sellers making money.
Quote:John 2:13-16
English Standard Version (ESV)
13 The Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple he found those who were selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers sitting there. 15 And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. 16 And he told those who sold the pigeons, “Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade.”
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The establishment wouldn't want him going around telling everyone that sacrificing animals was a pagan practise if that's what he was really doing. Isn't Crucifiction Against Jewish Law?
Quote:Secondly, Jews did not have the authority at any level to execute anyone. All legal discussions were theoretical. Jews were subject to Roman occupation from the time of Herod the Great (approximately 30 BCE), who was appointed by Julius Ceasar.
The High Priest was also appointed by the Romans. It is possible that he bought the position. We know that the High Priest and some of his followers were collaborators with the Roman authorities, but we don't know definitively why they did so.
Doing a deal with Pilate would be the only legal way of getting rid of a public nuisance if the above is true.
(February 3, 2013 at 7:24 am)catfish Wrote: The Romans were pagans, I don't think anyone denies that, right?
I don't trust them fuckers, period!
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Talmidi Judaism has some interesting things to say about what St. Paul promoted as being Christianity.
Quote:We see Talmidaism as a spiritual descendent of early 'Jewish-Christianity'; this term was dropped because of possible misconceptions that could be carried in such a name. We believe that as a Jewish prophet, 'Jesus' would have remained faithful to the ideals and principles of the Israelite religion, and therefore would never have envisioned himself as a god, since the Israelite religion, as a core fundamental of its theology, is founded on the precept that YHVH has no physical form or incarnation - unlike the gods of pagan religions. YHVH is holy - different and distinctive - and is therefore not like pagan gods.
Their views on why St. Paul didn't know what he was talking about where Jewish law was concerned makes interesting reading.
Paul Of Tarsus, The Deciever
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