(February 4, 2013 at 2:16 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Circumcision doesn't involve a choice usually.Hmmmmm... not really. Being a castrato has positive and negative effects.
War affects others negatively against their will.
These are poor comparisons.
Positive effects:
- Lovely singing voice.
- Status.
- Fame.
- A decent living.
Negative effects:
- Can't have children.
- Can't have intimate relationships.
- Weak bones.
Now you *may* be able to strike the "weak bones" off the negative effects since it can be much better treated today. But you also have to strike off "status", "fame" AND "a decent living" since it no longer guarantees you any of that, and certainly won't bring about those on its own.
(February 4, 2013 at 2:35 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Coincidentely, The catholic church child abuse scandle surfaced in southern Germany some years ago because a boy was so violently abused by a priest that his testicles had to be amputated when he was 11.But this doesn't tell you anything about castrati and their happiness in life, all it tells you (if it's true that he was depressed because he didn't mature as a man should) is that not having the good things that castrati had AND being castrated equals misery.
The scandle came to public light when that person comitted suicide in his 40s due to the resulting depressions he had.
(February 4, 2013 at 8:29 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Violet, this isnt about genderoperations and the changing of a persons sexuality.^ This. As I said to Tara, I say also to Violet - I'm willing to discuss gender identity in the correct thread, it's off-topic in this thread AND there is one specifically on the topic you want to discuss already.
It´s about cutting of a minors balls and thereby destroying his potential future sexuality before he even has the chance to develope one.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke