RE: atheist vs agnostics.
February 7, 2013 at 12:50 pm
(This post was last modified: February 7, 2013 at 1:08 pm by Simon Moon.)
There is no such thing as 'atheist vs agnostic'. The vast majority of atheists are agnostic. They are not mutually exclusive positions.
Agnosticism is NOT some sort of middle ground between theism and atheism.
No they're not.
Agnosticism is the position that it is unknown or possibly unknowable whether a god exists or not. Agnosticism is not some sort of lesser degree of atheism.
Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of a god.
Anti-theism is the active opposition to theism.
The vast majority of atheists are agnostic. Not all atheists are anti-theists.
No they don't.
Agnosticism has nothing to do with what probability one puts on the chances that a god exists. If you personally believe there is a high probability that a god exists, that is your own position, It has nothing to do with agnosticism.
On the subject of the religious arguments for the existence of a god, they are ALL fallacious. But that's a subject for a different thread.
Agnosticism is NOT some sort of middle ground between theism and atheism.
(February 7, 2013 at 10:03 am)Zone Wrote: They're the same thing with a different degree of passion. Atheists tend to deeply dislike religions and the concept of God and think it's utterly ridiculous, a form of child abuse and so on. Agnostics are a bit more chilled, people can believe in "some stuff" if they like, as long as they're not harming anyone.
No they're not.
Agnosticism is the position that it is unknown or possibly unknowable whether a god exists or not. Agnosticism is not some sort of lesser degree of atheism.
Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of a god.
Anti-theism is the active opposition to theism.
The vast majority of atheists are agnostic. Not all atheists are anti-theists.
Quote:Agnostics tend to believe there is a decent chance that something like a God or higher power could exist, religions do make some decent arguments and there is some good imagination there at the very least. But going from that to believing in miracles or the Devil would be a stretch for me personally.
No they don't.
Agnosticism has nothing to do with what probability one puts on the chances that a god exists. If you personally believe there is a high probability that a god exists, that is your own position, It has nothing to do with agnosticism.
On the subject of the religious arguments for the existence of a god, they are ALL fallacious. But that's a subject for a different thread.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
