Collaboration with theists?

[Edwardo Piet]

So if a theist does something bad, his belief drove him too it, but if an atheist does something bad it is a personal failing?

No... theists can do things because of something unrelated to their theism of course. But they can also do things because of their theist belief system - because of their specific religion. Atheists on the other hand cannot, it can only be because of them as individuals or some other belief system... because atheism isn't a belief system. Whereas theism implies some religious belief system, some religion... and religions are belief systems[/i].

What about the theists personal accountability?

That counts too of course. But religions are belief systems... atheism isn't.

I am using the concepts of dogmatic and fundamentalist atheist in the sense that they are acting dogmatic and fanatical. I know there is no dogma, but it is a comparison to the dogmatic fundamental believers and how they act.

Well that's all very well... but the difference is that atheism can't drive you to be dogmatic in itself, because it's not even a belief system that can be interpreted that way. It would have to be something apart from atheism to make atheists dogmatic... there is nothing moral or immoral about atheism itself... because atheism itself is nothing more than disbelieving in God, and there's nothing moral or immoral about that.

Thanks EvF.

Well, no problem. And thank you too Pippy. And once again, welcome back.

In fact, I was only recently thinking about you and wondering where you got to. Welcome back.

EvF