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Collaboration with theists?
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RE: Collaboration with theists?
So, Pippy… your not evangelical. But here you are evangelizing. For instance…

1. You accuse atheist activists of trampling the rights of theists. I’m still waiting for you to clarify that. Exactly what have we done that tramples theists rights?
2. You accuse atheist activists of filing frivolous lawsuits. What’s frivolous about suing to uphold the 1st Amendment of the Constitution?
3. You accuse me of considering you an enemy. I never said that. I take no such position. I am the enemy of religion. I am not the enemy of theists. Big difference. Theists may consider me their enemy. Some do, some don’t. I have many theist friends.

Yes, Pippy. It is possible that you might believe in a god and are not evil. There is no connection. However, as EvF points out, there is someting about organized religion that inspires evil. Big difference.

Would I abolish religion if I had the power to wave a magic wand and make it happen? No. I would not impose my world view upon the world by force. However, if I could convince the world to freely abandon religion in favor of reason, I would do so. What's wrong with that?

And, Pippy… when have you not been free from my beliefs? I have passed no laws. I have not attempted to deny you freedom of religion. I don’t force you to read what I write. I don’t force you to consider what I have to say. I don’t invade your private life, your home, your mailbox or your computer with my ideas. How can you imply that you are not free from me or any other atheist?

And what’s this stuff about anti-theistic censorship? What theist is being censored, when and where?
Are you referring to those occasions when atheists object to theists using the government to impose religion on us without our consent. The religious nuts claim they’re being censored. You side with them and call that censorship? Spit it out… exactly what issues are you siding with them on?

And what’s with this “abolish all religion” agenda you mention? Where did you get the idea atheists are trying to force anyone to their world view? I’m unaware of any such movement among atheists. But that’s just another false claim that comes right out of Fundamentalism.

Quite honestly, Pippy, you claim you are not religious, but I sense something very wrong with that claim. I’m hearing too many groundless assertions that sound very much like they spring from a Christian Fundamentalist church. It wouldn’t be the first time some religious nut tried to pass himself off as a freethinker.

In fact, as I sit here pondering this, I’m asking myself how a Christian Fundamentalist’s arguments would differ from yours? And the answer I keep getting is “They wouldn’t.”

Personally, I don’t care what your religious inclinations are. But I sense that you are misrepresenting yours. And I’m not as gullible as I once was, so I’m not believing in your so-called objectivity.
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Messages In This Thread
Collaboration with theists? - by Pippy - October 31, 2009 at 9:05 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - October 31, 2009 at 9:19 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2009 at 1:15 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by leo-rcc - November 1, 2009 at 1:37 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by solarwave - November 7, 2009 at 8:23 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 7, 2009 at 10:31 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by solarwave - November 8, 2009 at 11:41 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2009 at 9:46 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by leo-rcc - November 1, 2009 at 3:49 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Pippy - November 1, 2009 at 8:34 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by leo-rcc - November 1, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 1, 2009 at 10:36 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2009 at 1:16 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2009 at 1:27 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2009 at 1:31 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2009 at 1:42 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2009 at 1:55 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2009 at 2:10 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 1, 2009 at 2:02 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2009 at 2:34 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2009 at 2:47 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 1, 2009 at 5:40 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2009 at 8:14 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Pippy - November 1, 2009 at 7:00 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2009 at 7:09 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 1, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Pippy - November 1, 2009 at 9:10 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 3, 2009 at 4:05 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 3, 2009 at 5:55 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 1, 2009 at 10:55 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Pippy - November 1, 2009 at 11:47 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 2, 2009 at 4:42 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 2, 2009 at 10:21 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2009 at 6:31 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 2, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Pippy - November 2, 2009 at 8:09 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 2, 2009 at 10:30 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 2, 2009 at 11:21 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 3, 2009 at 1:21 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2009 at 8:04 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 3, 2009 at 10:25 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2009 at 7:40 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 5, 2009 at 11:55 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2009 at 8:47 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 9:02 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2009 at 9:40 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 6, 2009 at 10:34 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2009 at 6:59 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Pippy - November 3, 2009 at 8:49 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 3, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 3, 2009 at 3:03 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 3, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 5, 2009 at 1:05 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2009 at 6:06 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 5, 2009 at 11:16 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 6, 2009 at 12:59 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 6, 2009 at 8:12 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Violet - November 6, 2009 at 6:46 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 7:37 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 10:26 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2009 at 10:59 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by leo-rcc - November 6, 2009 at 11:23 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 11:38 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2009 at 12:11 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 7, 2009 at 12:28 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2009 at 9:01 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Tiberius - November 7, 2009 at 9:33 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 7, 2009 at 5:07 pm
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by fr0d0 - November 8, 2009 at 5:21 am
RE: Collaboration with theists? - by Secularone - November 8, 2009 at 11:21 am

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