woman rights in Islam

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A woman choosing to dress provocatively might not think of all possible viewers. I'm sure a woman would dress differently to go to a nightclub and to teach kindergarten. Suppose then a woman finds herself in the wrong situation... then she'd be embarrassed if 'under' dressed.

I'm a bit like Evie. I am attracted but then get embarrassed that I do. Women are then embarrassed that I look away and are always prudish around me. I guess they're not 'dressing up' for me but for other hunks they expect to meet

Objectification of women is damaging to both sexes IMO.

And for my religion's view on women... in the creation story beings are formed in order of complexity. The last thing created was woman.

Why should a woman feel 'under' dressed at any time but one in which they are cold? So far as I can tell... there is nothing in the slightest wrong (or embarrassing) with 'provocatively?' dressing, dressing in a trench coat, or not bothering to wear clothing at all

But I am bit like you and Evie... in that I am attracted to people (I like looking at faces and other defining features of a person)... but am too embarrassed by <removed>, so i usually just avert my head and sneak short, disguised glances with my peripherals And yes, if I present my body (and perhaps additional artwork [clothes, paint, etc.]) with a particular theory in mind: I will definitely be disappointed if it fails to 'work'. However, if whatever I was trying to do 'worked?': Then I will dance a little inside So far as I know... I'm not alone in that

Objectification of people is damaging to people, in my opinion. There is no "Who" that can be asked of my table... but if you can degrade a person to the point of being no different than my table: then that would be to undervalue them immensely.

Then how did mormonism and islam (and even much of christianity and judaism) manage to trade their daughters as cattle? <remembers one of fr0d0's sigs> Ah yes, that would be Christian imperfection... not Christianity's imperfection